Intro To Our Conversation With Lance Ingram

Rhett 0:12

Welcome back to another episode of Armchair Authentic , a podcast designed to help you fulfill your God assignments by having real conversations about real life with real people . And , justin , I could not be more excited about our interview that we had today with Lance .

Justin 0:30

Ingram . Lance is such a dear friend to us , but he's also the founder of Warrior United , which is a ministry that helps men experience spiritual victory in life . He's also the author of four books , one of those being United for Victory , where you hear from men such as Dave Ramsey , craig Rochelle and also Clark Hunt , who just so happens to be the CEO of the world champion Kansas City Chiefs . We go all over the place today . We cover so many topics . You're really in for a treat . Here's our interview with Lance Ingram .

Our Time Together In Highlands Worship

Rhett 1:07

What's up , guys , what's up ?

Justin 1:08

buddy .

Rhett 1:09

It's so good to have you in the home studio right here in my living room .

Lance 1:12

You know , you guys , you guys are all about having real conversations about real life , with real people , and I'm the first , am I the ?

Rhett 1:20

first . You are the absolute first .

Lance 1:22

Yes , Does that mean I'm the realest person that you know about and I live the realest life and I have the realest conversations ?

Rhett 1:31

Are you the one that's willing ?

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to say okay , I'll give you guys a shot .

Lance 1:37

I was feeling comfortable until that happened .

Justin 1:39

Disclosure . You were the first person we went to . You really were .

Rhett 1:42

Let's go . Ever since I ran into you at Starbucks , since we moved back into town , I was telling Justin , I was like , do we like we got to get Lance on the podcast .

Justin 1:50

We'll go into the archives and find the original dreaming up this podcast . And we were saying we got to get Lance in your mind , Absolutely .

Lance 1:57

That's awesome , man . Well , guys , I mean Rhett and Justin you know we we go back a long way playing worship music at church of the Highlands together . You know church of the Highlands this , you know massive , unbelievable church here in Birmingham , alabama , influencing the , the church as a whole globally . But that's really where God lit a fire under under me and lit a fire in my heart was at that church .

Lance 2:22

Man , I'm so grateful for our church and just have so many fun memories of , of of . You know in and out burger California , and you know just the craziest stories that we have together in our worship experiences , whether it be just the , the weekly grind of services and on Sundays , and then also in , you know , different art conferences where we went and played . It's just really . It's neat how God bonded us together for all those experiences and playing worship together . Because I'm telling you , there is nothing greater than leading people to worship Jesus and there's nothing more powerful than that community and that bond that comes when we're we're doing that together . So we got a special bond , so I'm I'm fired up to be here today .

Justin 3:08

Well , I can actually recall , with Lance his first date , us playing together . You ready for this January 4th , crazy 2009 .

Lance 3:19

Crazy , it was a .

Justin 3:20

Sunday evening .

Lance 3:22

That was the first time I came out looking like a backstreet boy .

Rhett 3:26

Man and the frost tips and everything going on .

3:30

Ready to play those drums I ?

Justin 3:31

can't recall everybody , but there's . There's a handful , and you're one of them .

Lance 3:35

Well that's , that's really cool . Yeah , church of the Highlands is a is a huge part of my story and Pastor Chris have so much honor for him and so much appreciation for him . He's a , just a legend of the faith who's taught me so much . I mean so much of what , and we'll get into this later but so much of what I do now is attributed . Every soul that I touch now is attributed partly to him because of . He was faithful with what God gave him and so man , our , our , our experiences in the , in the worship world are fond and they were impactful , and I can get into that in a second .

Lance 4:11

But

Two Juggernaut Parents

Lance 4:12

my story starts with two juggernaut parents , two unbelievable parents who are the prototype warrior , christian , jesus , focused , god loving couple that you could possibly meet , uh Burr and Jan Ingram . I didn't grow up in a broken home . I grew up in a home full of giants of the faith . My dad is the model of consistency biblical consistency , not not consistency of the wrong things , it's consistency of the right things from time to time and from place to place . He was always the same man , and Burr Ingram is , is a . He's a prototype of who a man is supposed to be . He wasn't paid for it either . He's not in vocational ministry . He and my mom lead a Sunday school class . This is just a testament to who he is and how good of a teacher he is lead . They lead a Sunday school class of 250 people . Let's go .

Justin 5:06

They lead a small church .

Rhett 5:07

They lead a small church within a church , and and and that is actually a big church and , by the way , they minister to them , and and I haven't even mentioned my mom- my mom my mom is .

Lance 5:16

She's unbelievable . She is the definition of joy and generosity . She is that if you want to see a dynamic woman , you look at Jan Ingram . And so Jan Ingram and Burr Ingram , they lead this , this small church .

Lance 5:29

Like you said , red jokingly but it really is this Sunday school class of 250 people , and they do it outside of what they do vocationally . And so I always like to mention this to those out there who are , you know , looking to do something in the ministry world or do something with their passion for Jesus . But if you want to see true passion , go find the person who works so that they can do ministry . Yeah , like who's Paul ? Like the tent maker . He says you know , I'm going to make tents so that I'm not a burden to anybody else , so that I'm going to these towns and minister to them , not those who are going . I just got to get on staff to get a paycheck . You know what I mean .

Justin 6:10

Yeah .

Lance 6:10

And so there's a big difference . My parents are that that that Paul prototype who . It's an overflow of who they are . It's not their job my dad doesn't get paid to do it , but but you know what he served that Sunday school class for . I mean , I want to say decades , week in and week out , not not just oh , it's football season , I'm out . I'll see you in a couple of months . Let me get a replacement . No , it's like he even struggles to miss like three or four a year , just because he's so committed to pouring the word into these families and these couples in Huntsville Alabama . So just to kind of pull that into where we are now . But I grew up in an incredible family who built a proper foundation for us and they taught us the word . Now , that's not , that's not . Everything is so important to know the word .

Lance 7:01

It is so important to know the word , but for me , that foundation was set . However , what I was missing and here we go into our to our real conversation here is an encounter

A Personal Encounter With Jesus

Lance 7:13

with Jesus . I just needed that encounter with Jesus and and not that I didn't have a great church growing up , it was . It was incredible when we were taught the word and my family , you know , taught , taught us the word , but there was , there was just a little something missing that that made , that was going to bring me to a place where I would go all in with God . And that's where it happened was at church of the Highlands .

Lance 7:40

I remember coming in the first time and I'm a drummer Drums since I was five years old . Just , it's in my blood , and I'd always felt like I had been drumming in all these secular places . I always felt like God had been saving my drumming ability for a place and for a greater purpose . Well , little did I know it was , for . It was for this time , and when I walked into church of the Highlands , I said there's something different in this place and I want more of it and I want to be a part of this worship team . That's where my story began , is I became a part of the Highlands worship team and within you know , a few months was was playing services and guys . When I encountered Jesus in that drum booth , we call it the aquarium you know at .

Lance 8:25

Highlands , these drum booths that everybody's using now .

Rhett 8:28

Cause it looks like an aquarium .

Lance 8:29

But it was . It was actually , and at the time it was just a drum shield , but it was behind the drum shield and eventually , in that , that drum aquarium that we see , it was an aquarium where I met Jesus . Um , no , but , but it was in those moments of worship where I wouldn't see 2,500 people out there leading worship , I wouldn't see that . I would see Jesus Christ bleeding down on me , his blood pouring out on me while I was drumming , and it was as if I was drumming just for him . And it was those encounters in the middle of worship that completely transformed me and took me down this path that I can't believe I'm on now . But it was years of that . It was years of of leading worship where God inspired this desire in me to lead men to the truth and lead men to those same encounters .

Lance 9:22

It was in 2009 , when I joined the worship team , and around 2012 , the Lord , he breathed into me this idea to go reach men , and so he really redirected , because I believe ministry is seasonal . Sometimes he can . You know , the Lord wants us to be focused on worship , but then , in another season , he may want us to be focused on feeding into marriage as well . For

When The Grace Shifts To Something New

Lance 9:50

for me , it became something that worship became a little more burdensome in a , in a season . It was something that was a little more of a task to me , because he was breathing something different in me for this area of ministering to men . I remember about my third year I think it was right around 2011 , 2012 , and I was leading worship weekend and weekend , and that was when we had man . We had Wednesday services too , every week .

Lance 10:18

We talk him . It wasn't just first Wednesday , no , these little these little people .

10:24

They exhausted after first Wednesday .

Lance 10:27

I got to try 40 of them . I was like , hey Justin , can you give me a break ?

Rhett 10:32

Well , wait 52 Sundays , 52 Wednesdays , 52 Thursdays . It was a lot , it was a lot .

Lance 10:38

I almost looked back and I go how ?

Justin 10:39

did we ever do that ?

10:40

But again , great it's grace .

Lance 10:42

It's a grace gift during those seasons , that's right . And God moved my my grace gift to this area of empowering me to go lead a small group . I didn't know what I was doing , but I just knew that God had directed me in that area of men . So yeah , here we go Lance is going to jump out and lead a small group , having no clue what he's doing . But I remember meeting at our little cramped apartment over in Cahaba Heights , behind the Colonnade , behind the summit , our big shopping center here in Birmingham , alabama , and we got together and there were probably 30 guys there and I was like I don't know what I'm really doing . But here we go , we're all here . Grab me some nachos . Yeah , I'm right .

Lance 11:25

So so we're sitting down and I just remember that God had given me the greatest encounters with Jesus , with worship . So I just turned on some worship music and we just started praying and worshiping together and we turn on a song and we'd all worship and then we'd start talking about the word and talking about our struggles and talking about our victories , and I was like God's doing something special in this room and it was that moment . And , man , y'all get me on the Holy Spirit now , I mean , when we really start talking about the Holy Spirit and Pastor Chris is credit to the teaching that he taught so well at our church

Breaking Addictions and Going "All In"

Lance 11:59

about the Holy Spirit being this wind , this force , this it's just a breath of fresh air for us .

Lance 12:07

It was when I embraced that and I said you know what ? I'm going to go all in because at this point , Justin , if we're being real , I'm just going to be real , Please . There was still a sin struggle in my life and I said I'm leading this group and , by the way , the group gave me reason to go all in . It's like man , I've got to be accountable to all these guys coming in , and so I'm like you know what , Holy Spirit , If you're real and I believe you are then you have the ability to take over this . What the world calls quote unquote addiction . That I have and , by the way , all an addiction is is a sinful habit that hasn't been introduced to the Holy Spirit , Come on .

12:46

Let's go . That's all it is . That's a great way to put it .

Lance 12:48

And so when you introduce any sinful habit to the Holy Spirit , he will give you dominion over it . He will give you that victory over it .

Rhett 12:55

Come on .

Lance 12:56

Guys , this is when my story completely it went in a totally different direction and I'm going to be transparent here , It'll be delicate but transparent . It was my sexual purity . There was still a little bit of hidden sin and I like to say it this way when you go up to a vending machine and you put 99 cents in that vending machine to get a candy bar out , that is a dollar , you're not going to get that candy bar . You've got to put that penny in before you receive that sweet abundance of that snickers bar .

Lance 13:23

You know what I mean and that's the exact way it is with our faith . If we want to get God's best , we got to go all in . And so for me when .

Lance 13:32

I put that penny in . When I put that penny in , the Lord said all right , now I'm going to show you my purpose for your life . And it was crazy because when I finally went all in , the Lord revealed his purpose for my life . And I like to say it this way our purpose is hidden behind purity . So if we will be pure , if we will relinquish all of the sin that we think is going to fill us up with which come on , I mean it never does If we will go all in and give him that last penny or that last nickel or sub , for some people out there , maybe it's that last 50 cents , maybe it's that far away , and that's okay . But once you go all in , the Lord is going to blow your mind with what he can do with your life , and that's my testimony . So here we

The Process of Writing the Book "Warrior"

Lance 14:16

are . We're leading this small group and the Lord was moving every weekend . I thought , man , this is incredible what he is doing , but it's missing one thing . It's missing structure . It was almost like we came in every weekend . We'd repeat the exact same things , which was good . When the Holy Spirit's leading , you just let him lead . But it would have been nice to have a little structure so we could talk about some different subjects .

Lance 14:37

Well , I had this idea . It was obviously the Holy Spirit , lance , you're going to write a book , you're going to write a curriculum . And I'm like , no , I'm not going to Lord , I'm not going to write a curriculum , because I hate writing and that's a lot of work , and it was just overwhelming to me at the time . Plus , I was , I had just gotten married and here I am , all in with the Holy Spirit and dominating that sinful area . Now just dominating victory over it . Baby Got Jesus , I got the keys . I got the keys to death and the grave also got the keys over sexual morality . I got the keys to everything , and when I use it , you better freaking get out of the way in me , because you're going to run over and that's the way that it works .

Lance 15:15

And so here I am and I'm ready to walk in my calling , and this guy named Justin Bradshaw I don't know if you ever heard of it .

Rhett 15:22

Yeah , I've never heard of this guy named Justin .

Justin 15:25

Bradshaw .

Lance 15:25

He's ministering to me while I'm in the worship department . He's just ministering to me . He said hey , why don't you come over ? I got the kids here . You know , maybe loud and everything , but let's visit Well maybe why go over there . I'll go over there and it's kind of loud . It's kind of loud , but the thing that stuck out to me that day more than anything is peanut butter . Oh let's go , all right so you have to get over there . I think it's actually Dax at the time . It's Dax .

15:50

Okay .

Lance 15:50

Dax is eating a peanut butter sandwich and I promise you it was the greatest miracle since Jesus fed 5000 with . With those five loaves and two fish . I'm not kidding . There was that that peanut butter multiplied . It was it was times 1000 . So it was what it started off as one peanut butter sandwich and I promise it ended up as a two gallon jug of peanut butter and it was wiped all over the wall .

16:14

It was wiped all over the table .

Lance 16:17

I mean , it was everywhere it was . It was crazy , but we locked in that conversation didn't we ?

Rhett 16:22

So it was a peanut butter paradise party .

Justin 16:25

Oh , it was at the Bradshaw , you better believe it , so here we are Everywhere , so here we are .

Lance 16:31

We're having that visit . We're having that visit , and I do remember that peanut butter . I mean it's just a lot of a lot . It was creamy , I mean creamy everywhere , on the walls , everything .

Lance 16:42

But there we are and in that moment Justin , probably at the time , was thinking all I'm doing is just visiting with one of the guys from the worship team , but I'm just going to pastor him , just encourage him . And I said , justin , I feel like the Lord is leading me to do something , to where what is happening in our apartment can be elsewhere . And he said you should write a curriculum , you should figure it out , to where you have some structure , to where you can have a warrior group , which what we called it at the time warrior group in mountain brook . You can have warrior group over in Cahaba Heights . You can have a warrior group over here . And I said that's crazy , but I kind of , I kind of , I kind of think that's the Holy Spirit . And so so it was . It was actually the irony of all this , talking about a real guy sitting in front of you was confirmation for you at that moment is .

Lance 17:29

This guy sitting right beside me is the one who got me to that place of speaking it in . And so there I was with this idea . But boy , the work on the other side of that . Oh the Holy Spirit , he'll breathe something to you that's so good .

Lance 17:45

And you're like , wow , I'm all in chill bumps , let's go , I'm totally in Holy Spirit . But then it comes to the work and the grind that comes to putting that thing together . And then , oh man , I got a son . Now I've got a newborn , now I'm a dad and I'm writing this book every day . How in the world ? Oh , I've got , I've got a huge business project that just took over this . You know the priority yeah , my life , to provide for my family . And so all of these obstacles and the frustrations and the resistance and the spiritual attacks and the insecurity , like Lance , what are you doing ? Writing a book ? You look , you look like an idiot . You're spending all these hours trying to write something that nobody's even going to pay attention to . You're literally putting hundreds of hours into this and not a man in the world is going to care .

Lance 18:36

Look at you over here , you little , you little thing in that cute , and every day , in every true and every single day , every single day I was like you know what , let me just go keep writing , Because faith is not in your feelings , is in what you're doing with them . Feet You've got to keep moving those feet .

Lance 18:53

If you're moving your feet , it don't matter how you feel . I don't care how I feel . Come on , enemy , I'm going to keep walking . Sometimes we insinuate in church that when you take a step , that the feeling's going to change . No , sometimes you just keep stepping in the feeling still there . Yeah , I get things , god , yeah , I'm only on chapter one and I've been working on this thing for like six months and here we go . But you know what , four years later , we finished it and thank you , thank you , god , for my greatest treasure , brook Ingram , because she supported me through all this and she encouraged me and challenged me and stood beside me . Just my greatest treasure . She pushed me to finish it and we finished it in 2016 . Ish , we released it in 2017 .

Lance 19:39

So it took about four and a half years , five years to write , which is brutal , but this is an all encompassing , jesus-centered , raw gut checking curriculum for men . It reaches into every single area of a man's life . And what is it built around ? It's built around the victory that I had over sexual purity . That's chapter seven , and so God will always take , I'm telling you , if you'll let him , he'll take your greatest struggle and he will turn it into your greatest ministry .

Lance 20:05

For me it was so rewarding to have that thing done . It talks about everything guys talks about about the Holy Spirit . It talks about 21 different scenarios we have . It talks about money management and friends and accountability and marriage and family and physical health and sexual purity . I mean all of it . It dives into everything , even our work and our school . So here's this curriculum that I've got and I'm excited at this point to have it done . But at that point I was going it would be a miracle for it to sell even 20 . And honestly , I was expecting to invoice my parents for 50 of them just to go .

Rhett 20:46

Hey , we raised 50 .

Lance 20:48

Martin . Here's what's so cool about God . Here we are about six and a half , seven years later , and we haven't just sold 50 . We are now just of that one curriculum . We're at 20,000 of those that have been reached all over the country .

Lance 21:01

I mean this , that's 20,000 sold books that have that have reached men all over the country . And it's not even crazy for these books to be going out in fives and tens and 15s to different states all over the country . So I mean no offense to our state , but it's not just going down the road to a city two miles away we're talking about .

Lance 21:20

it's going to California , is going to New York is going to Florida I mean literally all over the place , and it has been unbelievable to watch that when you do , when you are that child who puts , who puts the five loaves and the two fish in Jesus hands . When you do that , hey , he can cover an entire wall and peanut butter .

Justin 21:43

He really can , so good and so

A New Assignment To Write "United For Victory"

Justin 21:46

here's the crazy part .

Lance 21:47

I thought that was it , but no , god said God has a sense of humor , because I hated writing , he used me to write . And man , there's a lesson right there where the enemy attacks you most is where God wants to use you most , and so so so when you start walking in that the enemy goes , oh , he's found .

Lance 22:06

He's found where God wants him . And when that happens , you better , you , you , you better watch out , because God can use you in great ways . And so I finished this curriculum and God is , you know , has clearly used it over the last six , seven years . But after it was released in 2017 , he immediately breathed a new idea into my , my creativity .

Justin 22:27

A new assignment . A new assignment came your way .

Lance 22:29

A new assignment and and it's amazing how I look at it kind of on a timeline If you'll give him your purity , he'll give you your purpose . Then he'll give you an assignment . And then guess what ? It's not just one assignment , he's always got more for you . If you breathe in , finish the assignment that God has for you and when you finish that assignment , god will give you another assignment . So I finished Warrior in 2017 .

Lance 22:53

Then , for the next couple years , put together this incredible book called United for Victory , and United for Victory is essentially a collection of 42 men , an assembly of imperfect men pointing to one perfect man , jesus Christ . This is a very strategic resource right here . This resource the first one , warrior was created to help a man get to disciple himself , basically to give him to where he can receive God's purpose for his life . Then this one is to get outside of the church and go reach men with the gospel , to have a wide reach , because this you might go into a setting where you want to present the gospel to a man . Well , I had this book to present Warrior , but it's 288 pages . It's a lot Plus .

Lance 23:41

Guys don't know who I am , so they probably wouldn't read it . What if I could go into a board room or a living room or a locker room or a tailgate and I could give them a collection of 42 personal stories , 42 real men and 42 timeless truths , each one of these guys , most of them being influential names that you know of . You know , from Dave Ramsey to Tua Tunga Valoa , we've got Kirk Cousins , craig Groschel , our pastor , chris Hodges , in it . There's a lot of different men , from entrepreneurs to coaches , to entertainers , to musicians , to athletes . There are a lot of different men in here , but those 42 men , they tell a story , a personal story , but they also teach on 42 different topics , and so we put this together and this has 42 stories in it that I could tell right now about how it all came together . Brutal assignment , brutal . You want to try to get 42 men to do anything .

24:42

I mean , I mean… .

Rhett 24:44

I have a lot of questions for that one specifically on the entrepreneur stuff . In a little bit We'll get to that . So I want to kind of just put a pin in that one for sure , because I can't wait to dive into more of how you actually got those 42 men on board in that book when did the 42 number come from ?

Lance 24:59

Yeah , it was Holy Spirit inspired because I started at 30 . I started at 30 . And really the more guys who got involved , the more I realized there's more content to cover . We need to touch on fasting . Larry Stock still is in here talking about fasting , like you don't want to put . You know , somebody who doesn't know the word really really will on something like fasting . But we wanted to teach about fasting . We wanted to teach about going to spiritual war . We wanted to talk about worship and God's Word and loving and all these different areas of life . And so putting a variety of guys even the CEO of the Kansas City Chiefs is in this book and that is really cool because he's worth like $2 billion . I mean , if you hand that to a businessman , they might not read what I have to write , but what if they'll read what he has to write and then they get a little sample . Y'all know how it works . You give them a little sampling of the word and suddenly they're hooked . They're like I don't know what this is but I want it .

Justin 25:53

You know , in that , They'll read the football world champions and then it will lead them to reading about it . We got to keep this whole Kansas City Chiefs . Oh , that's it .

Rhett 26:05

Let's keep the walls down on this podcast before we create any more walls . It's enough that he's an Alabama fan and I'm an Auburn fan , but at least we got two Auburn fans against one in this podcast interview .

Justin 26:14

Long time .

Rhett 26:15

Chiefs fan , welcome to reality , it's been a good few years .

Lance 26:19

We're still living back in 2013 .

Justin 26:21

Yeah , let's go .

26:21

Kick , kicks , baby .

Lance 26:22

Yeah , no , I'm gonna be this whole saying you know , oh yeah , you remember 2013 . I mean , that's basically yeah .

Justin 26:31

Full disclosure again . A couple of weeks before that kick six , which I even hate talking about it , and I feel outnumbered right now because I am guys , I'm around a table of two massive Auburn fans . But let me just say for those in the other parts of the country , college football we've said it before it's huge here , Alabama , Auburn , huge rivals . And I had just sat down with Lance because Alabama had won back to back national titles . Do you remember this ? In the , in our back room , before we go out to play again , and actually told Lance I'm getting a little bored because we are demolishing pride everybody .

Lance 27:06

I remember everything you said about that conversation . You're like it's kind of getting monotonous and mundane . It's just common for us to win national championships and then the next day I remember seeing you and you were , you were like I will never say anything like that again .

Justin 27:20

I hate losing Auburn .

Lance 27:22

But coming back to this resource , this United for Victory . I told you , the warrior book was created to disciple the men , to disciple yourself , the individual man . This United for Victory collection was intended to reach those outside of the church , those men who needed it .

Lance 27:40

What's so cool is it also has a tandem that comes right beside it , basically a partner book that leads men into the depth of all these principles that these guys touch on . So Dave Ramsey may talk about money , but then you've got this group guide that comes with or that you can get alongside United for Victory . That has then anywhere from eight to 10 principles each week that dive into the specific scriptures and principles that are in God's word about that topic . And so here's , here's to sum it up . You go and reach men with the United for Victory devotional , with all these different men in it , but then you go and you disciple them after that , so you bring them in . In fact , I was at a small group just this morning where it had worked .

Lance 28:26

It's so rewarding to watch because these men were meeting and each one of the members of the group they had the United for Victory devotional , so they were reading just one story a week . These guys who might not have even been in a small group . They were reading one story a week on a certain topic and then the leader would come in with this group guide and he would be able to disciple them deeper on that one topic . And so the warrior book is about discipling the individual . Then you've got going to reach the men outside of the church with United for Victory devotional and then you disciple those groups of men with the United for Victory group guide .

Justin 29:04

So technical man , and then one more ,

Writing A Family Book Called "Foundations 365"

Justin 29:06

yeah , and then we got one more , since you're asking about it .

29:08

Yeah , I want to know .

Lance 29:09

This is the one that my wife and I just released at the end of last year . This was just a few months ago , and we've already got a thousand families using this book , which has been something that we've been using in our house . We're at , you know , around day 60 of this year and we have not missed a day , and this is near and dear to my heart right now because of the fact that we are under attack in this country , especially with who we are , our spiritual . In him , he wants our kids and their identity so bad and it is so obvious right now . And in kids . I don't think kids are any worse than they've ever been . I just think they don't know as much as they need to about who they are . You know , they know less about who they are than they've ever known . And so my wife and I we had talked about this several times leading up to the creation of this book , but we were like we want something that we can win a minute every day with them .

Justin 30:05

We just .

Lance 30:05

We want something practical that fits in our super busy schedule , but we want to win one minute with our children every day to teach them that just the truth . We don't need it to be fancy .

Lance 30:16

We just need to teach them a truth every day and we were like , ok , so if we could do that , if we had a resource that could give us and could give other parents a minute , or a minute and a half , two minute win every day with the kids . What would it look like ? And when we came up with this , we wanted to give them 365 biblical books , 365 biblical declarations to grow them , so something that they could speak out loud about themselves , because there is power in spoken word , there's great power in spoken word . So 365 biblical declarations to grow your child every day . Then there are 365 crucial scriptures to guide your child and then there are 365 powerful prayers to guard your child . So it's grow them , guide them and guard them every day . And what's so cool about this is that it makes it almost effortless for a parent to sit down and teach them .

Lance 31:06

If you go through all 365 days of this book , it will touch on almost everything they need to know about the gospel , about money management , about tithing , about physical health , about the Holy Spirit . Hey , there's 18 days about the Holy Spirit in this thing . June is full of the Holy Spirit After we touch on what the real meaning of the rainbow is on June 1st . Strategically , we teach them that June is filled with the Holy Spirit and so it's very strategic in its composition . And we have seen incredible . We have a nine year old , we have a six year old and we have a two year old , and even the two year old is participating in saying these things out loud and they don't look . My daughter doesn't know what she's saying , but you know what , hey , faith comes from hearing the word of God . So if we're speaking it out loud and they're declaring these truths I mean I'm just pulling one right here this is an example for a day . The Holy Spirit is my God . The Holy Spirit is my God .

Justin 32:03

When those kids are speaking that , and then you're reading the scripture over them and then you're praying a prayer specific .

Lance 32:09

Nothing wrong with praying the same prayer over your kids every day , but what if you could pray 365 specific ones based on that day ? So on this day , june 14th , I'm able to pray a prayer educating them and informing them , and also inspiring them and reinforcing the truth about who the Holy Spirit is on that day . And so it's extremely intentional .

Justin 32:30

Yeah , it's called Foundation 365 . As someone who has a personal testimony towards that . We bought the book , so the Brad Charles got it . We call ourselves the Brad Charles six . It is our regular routine to sit around the dinner table and every night foundation 365 , it sits on our round table . That's awesome and we have our meal and then we have the moment and the kids already know and we have 14 year old , 13 year old nine year old seven year old and we do the same thing .

Justin 32:59

And it's been so powerful because even our older ones , they're getting a lot out of it and they're actually finding their self jumping in and it's training our two young . So there's a development that's happening in them because they're helping the younger know the scripture and it's getting in them as well .

Rhett 33:14

So we've had a blast with it .

Justin 33:16

I would recommend just because I'm in the midst of this with my family get a copy of all these , of course , but foundations 365 . Yeah it has been huge for the Brad Charles home and it's become just a part of what we do and it's just going to become a regular rotation on our yearly calendar . Let's go , baby .

Lance 33:33

Man . That pumps me up . Man , it really does . And you know I am a very elementary communicator . I like I'm not . I don't like things to be complicated , I like them to be super simple , and that's the beauty of this book . Right here is Brooke , and I worked extremely hard to simplify it , and so , look , some of the days of this book are challenging . They're going to be challenging to even a , you know , 14 , 15 year old on . So , as we , you know , go through this book , but it is so imperative that they receive the information from God's word in a simple manner that they can understand it , but also , at the same time , are challenged with stuff that maybe they don't understand , because you're never going to learn something until you don't know it .

Lance 34:18

First , my son crew . He got in the car with me and we were picking him up from school , and one day he got in . He was seven years old at the time and he was talking about Greek gods . He was talking about algebra , equation . He was talking about vocabulary words that I didn't even understand . I had to look them up to figure out what in the world is that word . And he was talking about his Minecraft cities that he was building on his video game and I , and it was in that moment when I when I was like , oh my goodness , this kid is capable of learning and absorbing much more than that I'm giving him credit for . But on top of that , my son's school is challenging him more intellectually than I'm challenging him spiritually , because I do feel like I'm speaking to some , some families out there , some parents who are going ?

Lance 35:04

I don't know if they're going to understand it . Well , are we going to not share this holy cow , that's important information with them just because we're scared they won't understand it ? That is an attack from the enemy . It's a lie from the pit of hell that we need to withhold stuff because they're not able to understand it yet . No , let's give them the information about algebra , equations and Greek gods as it when it comes to their spiritual health and spiritual victory , because that's going to be the only foundation . That's what's called foundation 365 . Jesus is the only foundation that we can build any anything on that is sustainable . That is what Paul says . He's the only foundation , and so , for me and my beautiful wife Brooke , we are very passionate about making it simple for kids to know the gospel and to equip parents as the spiritual trainers of their home .

Lance 35:55

Kids spend 85% of their time at home , from zero to 18 years old . 85% . So you do the math they're probably at church . I mean , depending on the family , even the most dedicated family , you're probably at church . Maybe 5% of the time , maybe . And so what about that other 85% that you have them at home ?

Lance 36:15

Are you doing anything to win ? Because we , as men , we love getting together and getting excited and let's go fight , let's go win , let's go fight for our families . But what are we doing when we leave ? Do we have a plan in place to win on the daily regimen ? Because the daily regimen feeds into so much of whether we're spiritually victorious or not . And I don't know if anybody is familiar with the Rick and Bubba show out there , but Rick Burgess , who is a dynamic minister of the gospel and he reaches a lot of men , he's very passionate about resourcing , just as our church is about resourcing the church . His passion is resourcing men with these different tools that they can go and win with . And that's my passion as well . It is to make sure that when we give these men the fiery speech that we're also able to give them something practical that they can go win with when they leave a place .

Rhett 37:08

In all these books , everything that you've mentioned we're going to have in the show notes , in the links below . We're going to make sure that everybody knows , by the time this is over , how they can find you . Now they can connect to all these resources , because we want to make sure that that's very clear .

Justin 37:22

And then not just to the parents and to the men who are listening to this stuff . What you're getting out of the book , the story , even within the story , is we're listening to a guy right now named Lance Ingram , who was told that foreign voice is speaking inside of him saying who in the world do you think you are to try to write something ? And I'm getting to see right now , four books later . That's right . Well , we'll tell you who's inside of him doing this .

37:49

It's the breath of God . It is the .

Rhett 37:51

Holy Spirit .

Justin 37:51

And I love how these assignments have been accomplished . And we know you're just getting started and this is just amazing and so thank you as a dad that I'm getting to pour into my family , because it is these simple truths and this goes in every area of life . But even as a parent , we act like it's just for the kids . I'm reading these and they're so simple and I think to myself I can over complicate things . Our children need to hear these simple things of my identity is in Christ .

38:20

Yes or .

Justin 38:20

I am a gift from God .

Rhett 38:22

And you just back up and say whoa .

Justin 38:25

When's the last time I just thought of this simple little nugget of truth that they absorb and they will carry it with them for the rest of their life . Oh man , I'm so proud of you .

The Pain Of Discipline VS The Pain Of Regret

Lance 38:34

It really is an honor to be chosen by God to do anything . How unworthy are we to even wash his feet , I mean ? And so for us to be able to be a part of his work is the greatest honor that we could ever have . And so I'm blown away at what God can do with myself , which means if he can use me , he can use anybody out there . But it does require going all in , and you know the warrior verse that I always point back to .

Lance 39:01

I've got a lot of different areas . You know topics like the Holy Spirit . I've got my favorite verses on the Holy Spirit . I've got my favorite verses on Jesus , but one of my favorite verses it is my favorite verse when it comes to what our assignment is here is Hebrews 12 11 . Now Hebrews 12 11 is talking about disciplining a child . Okay , but what we find out from Hebrews 12 11 is that it offers impeccable insight into disciplining our own flesh . And here's what the scripture says . It says no discipline is enjoyable while it's happening . It's painful I love that phrase . It's painful . The Bible is going . I know it's painful , it's not going . Oh , it's going to be okay .

Lance 39:43

And you know , it's not that bad .

39:44

No , it says it's painful .

Lance 39:46

Discipline is painful , but all the back half of the verse , remember there's always a back half with God and the back half of that verse says but if you'll do it , there's a peaceful harvest of right living that comes from it . So the way that I sum this up to men is to say , hey , pain is always going to precede the peace , and and I've heard this said before and I don't know I've heard Nick Saban say something similar to this , but I think it may be credited to somebody else . Regardless , this is a powerful statement that you , that you can suffer pain from two different things . There's either going to be pain from regret or pain from discipline .

Lance 40:28

So you can choose whether it's going to be the pain of discipline or the pain of regret . The pain of discipline and the pain of regret are your two choices , but only one of them comes with peace . And so do you want the pain of discipline that also comes with peace , or do you just want the pain of regret that comes with destruction and death and emptiness and all those things ? And so the way that I look at everything in life , from building these resources to leading my family , to serving at church , to getting up in the morning and taking care of my body and going for a run , all of it comes down to that verse . It's like you know what this discipline is going to be a little painful . To turn off that alarm clock , to get out of bed , it's painful , but you know what , after 15 minutes I'm going to feel good , I'm going to lie that peace . It's inside .

Justin 41:14

And so , yeah , and I love that the pain is coming Like it's coming , no matter what it's coming using the outcome that the pain is going to bring .

Lance 41:23

That's right . Do you want pain with peace or do you want pain with death and regret ? I mean , you just fill in the blank All the things that the flesh are bad deterioration , division . You know it all . It all comes from that , and so we just choose . Do you want peace with your pain or do you not ? We have that choice .

Lance 41:40

But I'm telling you , if we could see an army of men embrace the pain of discipline , our country would change completely . But it's given up those three things that Jesus said no to in the desert . That's what brings us to discipline . Discipline is saying no to the three things that Jesus was tempted with in the desert , which are possessions , power and pleasure . Possessions , power , pleasure , possessions , power , pleasure . It's always those three things that the enemy is going to try to pull us away from discipline by dangling those three things . Hey , money , sex and fame . Yep , money , sex and fame . Right here , right here , baby , right here . Asherah mammon bale Three things in the Old Testament . Those are those three things he would always dangle in front of the people . Hey , god's people , look over here . We got more Yep . And it's crazy , every man who falls falls for one of those three . And look , all of us fall .

Lance 42:30

I'm not saying we're perfect men at all around this table . The only reason we are victorious is when we say no to those three and yes to the spirit . Our body requires air to stay alive . We breathe air in that keeps me alive . Right there , that's the Holy Spirit . His name literally means air . He's keeping you alive spiritually . Embrace that power , embrace saying no to the world and no to the to the big three . The triple option , the enemy's triple option , is what I call it . Say no to those and say yes to discipline , and when you do , you will yield the peaceful harvest of right living .

Justin 43:11

I mean that that right there is enough , and I think we we got to kind of focus on a couple of things that you said .

Justin 43:20

The first thing and let me highlight it real quick Rhett , and then you kind of take this with us too . But the first thing is just your determination of four years of writing something , going against the voice , of saying you're worthless on this and also getting rejected on even getting the writing of the 42 . And then there's the other side , the discipline of your own body and what you're doing there . So we've covered a lot of the spiritual stuff and really it's all spiritual . By the way , I want to talk about the whole routine you just talked about with physical discipline .

Consistency in Physical and Spiritual Health

Rhett 43:51

People that don't know what Lance looks like . The guy's got like 0% body fat . I mean he's , he's , he's walking muscle . He comes in my house and I'm like dang man , talk about inspiration , like you're obviously taking care of the gift of your body that . God's given you .

Rhett 44:06

In a way You're stewarding that Obviously you're a fan of all those other things , but you're stewarding your physical health in a way that honors God , that many people would look to and go . Well , you know , I mean , you know it's Lance , or he's got the time or he's whatever but you , this has been something consistent in your life that I've seen ever since I met you in 2010 to now 2023 , you know , or 2024 . What are we in ?

44:27

God bless you .

Rhett 44:27

We're in 2024 .

Lance 44:29

So , yeah , I'm , I'm , yeah , so well , well , I'm see , I'm , I'm a big discipline guy . I believe that if you get the context of a day right , if you just get the order of a day , you you figure out . Okay , if I could replicate one day 365 times , what would that ideal day look like ? Because if that day is off , the exponentiating compounding effect of those 365 days is going to put , put me in a worse place at the end of the year . Then the other side of that equation , if I were to refine it down to exactly what would lead to spiritual health and physical health and everything else , that's the one that I want , because the same effect is in play , but on the good side .

Lance 45:16

And so for me , I like , from the outset every day , I like telling my flesh no , and I hate running . I hate it with all my heart , but I love the results of running . And you can't , you can't accurately parallel that with the Bible , cause some days you you will not enjoy reading the Bible as much as some days you're just thirsting for and you love it . But there is a similar component with our flesh there , and here it is . When I wake up , I do not want to get out of bed , I do not want to say no to my flesh , but the more times I say no to my flesh in a row , the better I get at saying no to my flesh . And that's important , because y'all get me into this now , cause see that the physical , the physical health and the spiritual health coincide .

Lance 46:00

It's interconnected symbiotic relationship , and it's . No , it is no mystery that God rewards us with endorphins when we move . Okay , so , and and , and . Apply that to this the spiritual Yep , you ain't meant to just sit on a couch physically , but you're also not meant to sit on a couch spiritually . You know you are , you are called to get up and get moving and do something . And I believe that there is a great symbiotic relationship that when you're healthy spiritually , you will want to be healthy physically , and when you're healthy physically , it will make you healthier spiritually . And so for me it's this simple I say no to my body . From the outset , I go for . My routine Just looks like this I wake up every morning at about 540 and I go run . It's not long , it's a mile , it's outside , but usually usually there are exceptions , but for the most part I do it season in , season out , and it's . It's brutal some days , because you know when it's 20 degrees or when it's eight degrees and it's dark . You're like man , is there going to be like a ?

Rhett 47:01

wolf to come out of there . What am I doing ? This is nuts . Yeah , like what am I doing ?

Lance 47:08

But , but again the impact that that that physical discipline has on the way that I feel also impacts the way that I choose throughout the day . So the choices are impacted by the way that I feel . And so feelings I don't obey feelings , but wouldn't you want to improve those feelings as much as you can so that they do lead you to maybe make the best decisions you can ? And that's what physical health does and physical discipline does . I mean I saw a study the other day that said physical exercise is twice as effective as antidepressants on depression twice as effective . I think it was Jim Carrey who said this , the great theologian Jim Carrey , I think . He said you cannot expect to be healthy mentally until you are doing some sort of exercise . That doesn't mean you're living in sin if you're not exercising , but I believe it just helps . And if it helps I'm in like give me every discipline to lead me to as much spiritual health as possible . I think of this quote from Usain Bolt man , one of my favorite athletes of all time .

Lance 48:12

In fact he probably is , and he's speech Jamaican sprinter . Yeah , just I mean , could it just lighten , fast ? Yeah , I mean bolt , I mean this is a name , I mean , I know .

48:23

He is literally a bolt , but he said .

Lance 48:27

He said one of the problems that athletes have is they look at him and they want what he has . But he responded by saying this he said I trained four years to run nine seconds and people quit doing what they're doing after two months because they ain't seen results . And the truth is that can be applied on the spiritual you got to keep going , yeah Do it in the physical , but also do it in the spiritual and go you know what ?

Lance 48:51

I've only knocked out one chapter of writing this book , but I'm going to keep going . It's been six months , but I'm going to keep going and it's good and just that discipline of consistency , man , consistency , I mean it's a trademark of Jesus . He's the same today , yesterday and forever . When I think about that character characteristic of Jesus , that's one that I want to embody more than anything . Just being consistent , I am where I said I was going to be . I am going to make the choices that I said I was going to make . My yes is yes , my no is no . My wife knows where I am .

Lance 49:25

When I'm hanging out with Justin and Red , I'm the same guy that if I'm hanging out with fill in the blank , or Friday night , I'm the same guy as I am Sunday morning . That consistency from place to place as I mentioned about my dad earlier , from place to place , but also from season to season , is what we're missing in this world . You know , I've seen so many men get fired up for two months or a year and then fizzle out , and I just don't want to be that . I don't want to be that . So really it comes down to talk about being a warrior Galatians five , galatians five . I've got to fight against my flesh every single day with the Holy Spirit , and if you fail to fight , you are essentially digging your

Winning The Battle In The Mind: "Aichmalotizo!"

Lance 50:01

own grave .

Rhett 50:01

What does that fight look like for you ? Obviously , I'm hearing you talk about the word . I'm talking about you know the . I got to get out of bed . I got to die to self . Like what ? Give me a practical application . You're waking up in the morning , or whatever it might be . What does that look like for you ? I mean , I know scriptures that tie into that , but what is what's that fight going on ? Is that a mental battle going on ? Is that like ?

Lance 50:19

it's all is the battleground of the mind , and you hear this so much , man . This is just something that you hear and everybody's teaching nowadays . You got to win the battle of the mind , but are you winning the battle of the ?

Rhett 50:28

mind . Yeah , exactly the battle of the mind . So how do you win the battle of ?

Lance 50:32

the mind . Akma Latiso is the word Okay , it's second Corinthians 10 , five . It's at the core of this warrior book . Akma Latiso is a word that is used in second Corinthians 10 , five , which says take every thought captive , subjected to God and the power of Jesus , and take all those things that pretend to be true . And hey , we're going to take them captive . And you know what that word there means . It's Akma Latiso , which I mentioned .

Lance 50:59

Akma Latiso means to take captive by using a spear . So it's literally taken . You can see the razor sharp point of a spear . What that is telling us to do . And this is where a lot of men bow out Because this is tough , this is really tough . But you got to have that spear ready Every single moment of every day to go . Is this glorifying to Jesus ? And if it's not , guess what ? You being taken over here and you being Executed with the point of that spear ?

Lance 51:31

That's the violence of the things , of the spirit . Like you have to be violent against the things , the flesh , otherwise you're gonna lose . And so it's that mindset of going Okay , I just woke up , how's my flesh trying to call the shot ? Yeah , it's not a flesh or spirit thing . When you , when you say Am I gonna get up and go for a run , right ? However , there are so many choices throughout the day that are flesh and spirit . Is that girl Walking by with Lulu lemon pants on ? Is that glorifying to God in Jesus name ? It's not , so I executed it and now I'm looking elsewhere . It's this violence against the things of the flesh every single day , every single moment of every day . Yeah , and it comes with embracing the power of the Holy Spirit .

Lance 52:12

Luke 11 , 13 . Hey , God's gonna give us his Holy Spirit if we ask for him . But we got to ask for , ask him for the Holy Spirit . Walk in that power and then be ready , because you got to do your job too . You better Archmelotizo , you better pull out that spear , because I'm telling you , if you don't , you're gonna lose , and it's good and it takes . Here's the . Here's the discouraging part about that is , if you lose for one moment , it can ruin 10 years of a testimony . Yeah , you better be ready with that spear to go to battle every day . That's the warrior mentality , that's . That's the discipline , that's the . That's the Hebrews . 12 , 11 . Hey , it ain't this discipline , ain't fun right now . I know you want to play with that in your mind and Jesus , that boom gone . 12 years of victory over sexual immorality . Come on , I mean not even one , not even one entertain . Why what I just told you ? I come out , let Tzo all day , every day baby .

53:06

That's awesome .

Lance 53:09

Armchair authentic . Yeah , baby .

Rhett 53:12

That's awesome , is firing me up , and so what is that ? Okay , so , practically speak , all of that is amazing . Thank you for sharing that , but I'm packing even more outside . I just exercise running , and do

Eating Habits

Rhett 53:23

you have habits as far as food and you're what you eat , what you don't eat , like what does that look like in a practical sense , speaking of you know ?

Lance 53:30

the physical side of things , people probably think I starve myself , but the truth is I eat probably one big meal a day and then a couple snack meals . People think I'm probably a bird after I tell them what I eat in the morning .

Lance 53:41

But the but the truth is , I love the way I feel . In the mornings , usually , I will eat some type of wheat , peanut butter , crackers , those Lance ones Eat those every day with a , with a like some kind of flavored water , and so I'm sitting at probably 210 calories . At midday , midday , usually , I'll eat some kind of you know sandwich and maybe a couple Cheez-Its or something like that . It's not that healthy , it's not that healthy , but it's all about the quantity that I eat . Usually , after lunch , I'm still sitting around 7800 calories for the day , okay in the evening , and some . So look some dietitians and Doctors out there going . This dude's an idiot .

Lance 54:24

But the truth is is what it works and at the end of the day , we'll usually eat our big meal and even and I'll eat , I'll eat a good amount and I won't I won't hesitate to knock out an Oreo or two .

54:35

Yeah , every couple nights to many cities . I enjoy many cities we've enjoyed our Shears .

Justin 54:43

I love it , I love it , but here's the thing .

Lance 54:45

When my body tells me like I'm super full , like we eat chicken casserole the other night and it was so good and I hate so and I like three helpings of it and and afterwards I was like so full and and you know what I did , I just didn't eat it . I didn't even really eat a big meal the next day because I just felt like my body was out of sorts . And so it's that . It's that balance . I know that's such a simple word , but it's . It's really about balance and going . You know what , just because our world eats three 1500 calorie meals a day and says , oh , now it's time to show , shovel it on in , bring in the , bring in the you know the wheelbarrow , open your mouth . And here we go again , like when we just we just ate , like an hour and a half ago and I'm , but it's getting to a place where that that's a routine .

Lance 55:34

My regimen is filled with more discipline than indulgence . I like to say it this way , that we are not here on this earth to indulge , we are here to invest . So if I take that mentality and I go into , you know restaurant , suddenly every restaurant I'm going into , I'm not going how can I stuff myself full of just the best food ? Well , I you know what . Like this morning I went to a small group at Jack's . I had already had my peanut butter cracker , so I didn't eat anything at Jack's . Now , later on today I'm gonna probably have me a good meal , but it's it's cutting back on what is the normal American way of doing things and is it doesn't even make any sense .

Lance 56:14

Yeah just because something's normal in our routine , in our society and in culture doesn't mean that it's good and it's healthy and so yeah . So for me , I try to stick around 2000 calories a day , like at most . I don't like shoving this on people yeah because you know a lot of people . You know they , they struggle with that or they just don't want to do that , which is fine . But for me , since you're asking for me , it really helps me to say no more to my body than saying yes to my cravings .

Rhett 56:42

Well , you said something earlier about coming down to Describing what my ideal day is . Not just what the day is , but the schedule , the way I want to feel , all those things . And it seems to me like you're making a plan or roadmap for , for the vision you have for your life , for your family .

Rhett 56:57

Oh , it is help for your spirituality and ensuring that those ingredients are happening daily . Yeah , so it's not . You didn't get there by happenstance . You got there on purpose , with the intentionality , but it happened with a vision and then putting a plan in place that would help you fulfill that vision for your life .

Lance 57:12

Yeah , that's exactly right , and the daily regimen determines whether we have spiritual victory , all the victory that we want to experience . It has to do with your daily regimen . What do you do every day ? If you show me what you do every day , I can tell you whether you're gonna be successful . And Having having that mentality that is extremely disciplined on getting the day right yeah , that's , that's everything . Being a parent in 2023 right , I'm just kidding .

Rhett 57:38

I'm kidding 2024 , where my mind is golly .

Lance 57:44

We're almost 20% done with this year is the crazy part , but . But being a parent in this day and age is Extran not . Not that it wasn't hard before , yeah , but it's extremely hard to fight

Fighting Against The Influences That Are Coming

Lance 57:56

against all the influences that are that are coming Into our homes . I mean , even last night we were watching a kid's movie at our house and we had to shut it down right in the middle of it out of nowhere . I was like well gone .

Justin 58:06

Yeah , like going , just like that .

Lance 58:08

Yeah and you have to have that type of Watchman mentality , the gatekeeper mentality of , hey , we're gonna keep that crap out of our house . Yeah , so that we are cultivating Christ in our house . I believe that children , no matter who they are , are going to wrestle with the desires of the flesh , no matter how they're raised .

Lance 58:29

It's right it's just how it goes . That is reality of being on this , this fallen earth , where you know the sin of one man has now Contaminated and affected , and boy that he opened up a can when he made that mistake .

Lance 58:45

It's affected all of us , and there's a part of our flesh that , no matter how good good apparenting Our parents do or we do , our kids are going to be tempted by things , they're going to be intrigued , they're going to their . Their flesh , so to speak , is gonna be tickled . You know , yeah , look over here or get enamored with . You know whether it be I mean heck video games and oh , you know beauty and all of these Pleasures and , like I said , possessions and popularity .

Lance 59:16

This world pushes on us and so there was always a curiosity with my flesh Wanting to explore the world . There's always that . But I believe in the scripture when it says that if you teach your kids the word , they ain't going to depart from it . They're gonna come back to it and the end look . Yeah we're all gonna experience . I know crew Oakland and Natalie .

59:37

They're gonna .

Lance 59:38

They're gonna experience my three kids . They're going to experience some seasons in life where maybe they entertained their flesh and walked in sin for a short period of time . But one of these days in this foundations 365 books says I pray that my kids hate sin , that they're disgusted by .

Lance 59:57

That's good because they're gonna taste some of it . It's just reality . We're in a fallen world and we don't like to think about that . But I think that was me as a kid , that I knew all the right things and that I that I even did most of the right things .

Lance 1:00:10

But here is the the big takeaway from that , which is we've got to pray an encounter over our kids with Jesus Christ himself , because I can't live off of my dad's encounter with Jesus , you know , I can't live off of my mom's encounter with Jesus . I must have my own , and I must have it often . I must have an experience , and a fresh , new experience , and and offer him a new song , not just that old one that I'll remember . That moment when I met with Jesus is like no , I'm gonna offer him new songs . That's . That's why having worship music coming out constantly is important , because we want to offer him new songs and fresh Experiences , fresh breaths of air from the Holy Spirit , and and so we must have those encounters and our kids must have their own encounters in order to live Spiritually victorious lives , and it's tough , man , you want to give it to them .

1:00:58

Yeah like .

Lance 1:00:59

You want to bottle it up like these . You know bottles of water in front of us and you want to go . Hey , can I just pour this out on us ? But you , but you know what ? Yeah , in a way we can , by cultivating the spirit in our own life and making sure that there's no sin in our own life and that we're not rolling out a red carpet for the enemy to come in and and hijack these . You know , cuz , cuz . Here's the way I'll look at it .

Lance 1:01:21

I think the enemy is always trying to find some kind of breach into our home , so he's looking for a little crevice . He's like oh , I can hop on that sexual immorality , I'm gonna hop in there and , and I'm all , I'm all tempted their kid in a completely different area , but I'm hopping in . I'm using sexual immorality in his life as a train to get in there . I'm gonna hop out of that train and I'm gonna get on another train and drive it into my , my kids life . He's studying us , he's looking to try to devour , and you know the scripture steal , kill and destroy . He's looking for that opportunity . And how does that happen ? It's the unseen sin . And so for me , that's my goal as a dad and as a husband is don't be the Door mat for the enemy to walk into this home you know , and I'm gonna fight against .

Lance 1:02:08

I'm all ok , my latezo , I'm gonna take it with a spear and I'm gonna say it ain't happening in my house , and that's the way that I prepare the environment for God's presence to be there . So that guess what . He's there . Yeah so one day they gonna have an encounter with him .

Justin 1:02:21

That's right .

Lance 1:02:21

It's up to us to prepare the environment so that they can have that yeah , and that's that's so good .

Rhett 1:02:27

We can do everything that we can possibly do . You know , ultimately it's gonna be that prayer that you know of their identity and coming into that encounter with Jesus , because we can only , like you , just Create as many opportunities as we can for an encounter with Jesus and create consistency in the home . Yeah , this is who we are , this is . You know , this is our identity . You know , I tell my son all the time when he walks out the house remember who you are .

1:02:49

Yeah , remember who you are your man of .

Rhett 1:02:50

God , you fill with the power of the Holy Spirit and you're called to make a difference .

1:02:54

Yeah .

Rhett 1:02:55

And I speak that over him before he goes to bed , and I speak that over him before he leaves to go to school , and when he comes home , I'm all like what's up , man of God like it's , I'm always speaking to his identity , and so I get fired up today hearing your story of the impact that your dad's legacy has made on your family and in your life , because you know , if you're listening to this and maybe you didn't come from that , you know aspect you can change , that , you can make the changes and implement this for your family and your future and your wife and your kids and so

Who Are You Without Your Calling Card?

Rhett 1:03:23

forth .

Lance 1:03:23

You know , when it comes to building a ministry in our home and building a ministry anywhere , I feel like there are two things that have become too important in the world of ministry and I'm putting quotes around that , this world , this Terribly unhealthy culture , and in my opinion , by the way , we put emphasis on two things that are , honestly , they just shouldn't be there , and one of them is our presentation , like it needs to be polished and flashy and it needs to be clever and all that stuff and really that's not that important Like God's word is enough . God's word is enough , and that's why this foundations book is so good , because it really there's no , no flash to it . It's just teaching them the word .

1:04:05

It's just teaching them .

Lance 1:04:06

Here's . Here's the Bible and we're going to pray it over you and we're gonna pray that . We're gonna pray that scripture out to where we're reinforcing it . So it's the flash of presentation and the polish of presentation just did . There's too much emphasis there . If you're out there , want to do ministry and God's calling you to do something , man , go do it . Don't worry about being , you know , clever , like all of the , the leaders in you know who are , who have Instagram followings and who are internationally known . Who gives a crap ?

Justin 1:04:36

I'm serious about that crap yeah that's sin .

Lance 1:04:38

That is sin . It is not about us , it's about Jesus , mm-hmm . And the second thing is is kind of in the same vein is we look for the impact . We're we're not worried about the investment we're going . Did my investment pay off ? It's like you may not ever know that your job is to go invest , not to look at the impact . We invest , god impacts and we may never know what those results are , what those metrics are . I mean , we're always looking at Instagram followers and yeah , and how many views did it get ? And I mean , look , that's , that's us too . We , we want that . We , we love that because we love being rewarded for our work and we love seeing results . But do not get obsessed with polish and metrics . I'm telling you .

Lance 1:05:25

Those two things will Destroy the purity of every ministry in order to destroy the purity of your heart . And and I just I get , I remind myself that when I go and I speak to even seven men in another state , if it's , if it's 18 men in the room , guess what 18 more men just got . All that matters . And I like to say it this way if we give our kids , if we give our men , if we give our Church members , if we give fill in the blank , if we give them Jesus , we give them everything . But if we don't give them Jesus , we give them nothing . Come on . And so we have to remember that when we're giving Jesus to people , we've given them everything . Who cares ? Let the chips fall as they may , we don't care , because I just did my assignment .

Lance 1:06:10

There wasn't a promise of 20,000 men being reached about this first warrior book sitting in front of me . There was never a promise of that . There was do your assignment and let me take it . And Now I look back and everybody's probably gonna look at that and go well , no you , that's easy to say that when you got 20,000 , you've sold . Yeah , well , I didn't know that when I was writing it . Yeah , I was writing it going . Yeah , this is gonna go to six people right .

Lance 1:06:36

That's great . I'm spending two or four years of my life , yeah , to read six people . But you know what ? That is the heart of what God wanted the whole time he said that's all .

Lance 1:06:46

I want you to be so focused on that one lens that you don't give a rat's tail about Reaching 20,000 people . I want you to care about the one and doing what I want you to do and fighting against all that crap it's coming in to to keep you away from this assignment , and I want you to be so focused on the humility of it to where I can use it . So he needed to get me where I needed to be before he could use me like he wanted to use , and it started in a small group .

Lance 1:07:14

Started in a small group .

Rhett 1:07:15

This is just one little simple step of a small group man . I think this is important to you . Know , there's a lot of people who who think that their assignment and maybe it is true for some people that their assignment is the same . I think if I'm simplifying assignments , it's really love God , love people .

Rhett 1:07:30

Yeah in the way that we love God and look love . People are gonna look different in seasons of our life when we're 14 , 17 , 20 , 25 , 30 , whatever . But when you were saying about , I was a drummer and I was passionate , I was in . You're a phenomenal drummer and I've had the opportunity to , to be on the receiving end and play together with you , and there's something powerful that happens when you play .

Rhett 1:07:48

I mean , it's a gift , but it's interesting that that , although that's a grace gift , that was a door that opened another door , but that wasn't the final door . That was just a chapter in your life , not to say that that chapter won't ever be revisited with what you continue to do . But there was a shifting in that moment to lead you to kind of like well , okay , it kind of was just this feeling of I don't want to forget what the word you said , but you just feeling of not that it wasn't fulfilling , it would just . It was that moment where you did there's a change , there's a shift . Not that I don't love , this is more of a chore .

Lance 1:08:20

Yeah , the seasonal grace , the seasonal grace had been lifted Right and and really it had been allocated to a different space .

Rhett 1:08:27

Yeah , okay , yeah , and some people have a hard time with that when they're dealing with their identity and thinking well , I am this , this is who I am , I've been this all my life and they have trouble with that shift . Was that a smooth flow into this new season of grace ?

Lance 1:08:39

Well , you know , is that kind of like for you , you know we're all looking for some kind of calling card . Everybody , we're all looking for some kind of label to go oh well , you know I did this , or you know I'm this , I'm this title . Or look at my resume . Or hey , I'm . You know , I'm dr Lou from the Rick and Bubba show . I'm right , I'm the worship leader over here at church of the Highlands , whatever it is . We're all looking for some kind of oh I drum with the main worship team at church of the Highlands . You know , we're all looking for that .

Lance 1:09:09

And when you , when you take that away , when you take that assignment away , what ends up happening is we have created an unhealthy anchor in our identity To what the title was or what the achievement was , and it's our calling card . And relinquishing that is tough . And I will tell you , there were a , there were a couple moments here and there , after giving up that seat on the drum throne of the aquarium at church of the Highlands drumming when it , when you would go well , if I'm not doing this , then then then who am I ? Or what am I ? You know what's my , what's my new calling card , and we're always looking for that . And , and I don't know if there's a way to completely rid ourselves of that . I really don't . That's just part of the flesh . But what you have to do is you have to continue to deflect to Jesus and say it's all about Jesus and you know , bringing us full circle with all of this conversation about being in Highlands , worship and then Walking in my

Embracing Worship in Drum Coaching

Lance 1:10:04

calling .

Lance 1:10:04

I remember for a couple years , few years I guess it was probably three or four years where I was able to it may have even been longer than that where I was privileged with the opportunity to Coach the drummers in our infused process , which Justin was such a pivotal part of coming up with that process . But I was able to coach our drummers . And in Coaching our drummers , of course I'm meticulous . I'm . I want to be precise and technical about everything that we're learning from the musical side of things , but it was the worship side that God really . He challenged me and he inspired me and he Motivated me to teach a little different component when I was teaching the drummers . It wasn't just all that technical , it was about being a worshipper on stage . And I want to read something from one of one of my books . This is from the United for Victory , devotional , and I actually wrote one of them , and it's what I taught these Drummers when I was coaching them that hey , you're not going out there to just play good service and and be perfect , you're going out there to worship Jesus . And here's what I wrote to also challenge men with , because it's all consistent .

Excerpt From Book: United For Purpose

Lance 1:11:12

I've realized something critical to keeping my heart locked into its purpose , and it's seeing Jesus .

Lance 1:11:19

I Realize my heart never goes where my eyes haven't gone first .

Lance 1:11:24

That means if I will fix my eyes on Jesus , as Hebrews 12 to says , it will transform my heart . The greatest discipline , you Christian manhood , is to deliberately immerse ourselves in the reality of the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ on a daily basis , to turn on worship music and actually transport ourselves physically , mentally and spiritually to the foot of the bloody cross and empty tomb of Jesus . Because if we will do this we will win every battle in decisive fashion , because it equips us with both his love , that gentle passion for us on the cross , and his power , that unmatchable force in the resurrection . So much of our passion for Jesus hinges on our inserting him into the now , even placing him side by side with the iconic figures in society , to realize that there is no comparison . Jesus stands alone as an incomparable superpower . He defeated death and holds the keys to death in the grave , and that's a mic drop response to any other resume line item . It is a literal , timeless accomplishment that guarantees Jesus is the most relevant and real figure in pop culture . Until the earth ceases to exist , jesus is relevant .

Lance 1:12:42

And that right there man of being able to see Jesus , encounter him , and whether it's in a drum booth , whether it's quietly in your room , whether it's in a noisy car , if you will see that blood and you will take time to immerse yourself in that moment and in the moment of his resurrection , I'm telling you that is where we're equipped to do incredible things . So the last scripture I want to share , but Hebrews 4 , 8 , and 12 , and 13 , talks about how Peter and John were filled with the Holy Spirit . And there they were filled with the Holy Spirit . And they're in front of this council of religious leaders and government leaders . And there they are , and this is what the word says . He said the members of the council were amazed when they saw the boldness of Peter and John , for they could see that they were ordinary men with no special training in the scriptures , but they recognized them as men who had been with Jesus . So here it is Ordinary men become extraordinary when they're filled with the Holy Spirit and they see Jesus and spend time with him .

Rhett 1:13:49

Well , lance , it's been incredible man . Thank you so much for your time today . I'm honored to have you as our first guest and you know it hopefully won't be the last . I'm sure we're gonna get several comments and people just you know , saying , hey , you know I can Wednesday coming back on , but more than that , most people if I'm on the other end of one , how in the world can I get connected with you , your ministry , to support it , to get the book , to get the foundation , get all of that in their homes , in their household , in their hands , so they can share it with other people ? So you can take a moment just

How To Contact Lance: WarriorUnited.com

Rhett 1:14:19

talk us through that . How can we find you and follow you and stay connected with what God's doing in your life and through your ministry ?

Lance 1:14:24

Yeah , so the easiest way to connect with what we're doing is just to go to warriorunitedcom warriorunitedcom , and then you'll see there the various resources that we have . You'll see a way to send us a message if you want to . There's a way to plan an event , to see a couple of the places that are coming up on the calendar where I'm able to speak , and we'll be adding a couple more to that , in fact , in the next week . But warriorunitedcom is the best way to get connected to us and then , if you want the resources , they're available there at the website or you can go to Amazon . A lot of these , in fact , three of these four resources are available on Audible .

Lance 1:15:09

So if you are you don't like reading but you love listening to podcasts , like Armchair Authentic , you can listen to the Warrior book , the United for Victory book and the Foundations 365 book , and I've voiced actually all of those from a guestroom closet , so the professional guestroom closet . They sound very good , though it's amazing what you can do anywhere now with all the technology . But those are there as well and they're available on ebook . So you can really get it in Apple ebook , kindle ebook , barnes Noble online ebook , but the physical books will come either from Amazon or warriorunitedcom , and so we'd love to connect with you and love to come to your city even if there's an opportunity to go and to speak , to download some of this into your group of men or congregations .

Rhett 1:16:08

Well , I'm sure inquiring minds want to know

Appearance by Dr. Lou from The Rick And Bubba Show

Rhett 1:16:10

is there an Audible book , with a Dr Liu reading the book ? Well , and here's why this is important , rhett , it's so funny .

Justin 1:16:17

By the time somebody is listening to this , we're nearing the end of episode seven . Seven is a very strategic number . It means completion . We've been working hard and we're in that seven episode a little weariness , but there's ever been a time to have motivational speech from somebody . It could be today and I know he's been waiting in the writing room and he is so patient and he is just sitting in the leather chair . Could we be inspired so that we have , like Lance Ingram said a while ago , the power to keep going ?

Lance 1:16:51

Yeah , let me . Let me get Lou Holtz real quick . Yeah , please .

Justin 1:16:53

Thank you .

Lance 1:16:54

Lou , we want you to come in .

1:16:56

Well , hello guys , it is so good to be here on the armchair authentic , you know . There's nothing more authentic than an armchair .

Rhett 1:17:06

It's such an honor to have you in my home , lou . Well , you know here's the deal .

1:17:12

You know life . Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond . So you know , you guys need to , you need to understand . You know your response to Nick Saban being fired there by Greg .

Rhett 1:17:28

Byrd over at .

Justin 1:17:30

Just Collusion .

1:17:31

You guys need to understand . You know this . This Kailin Kailin , it's not a girl's name . Oh , kailin Kailin's coming in . She's going to do a great job . I just know .

Rhett 1:17:43

You think so ? Wow Okay .

1:17:45

But , guys , you know you did a great job today . You know , if I could , if I could coach , if I could coach you on anything , I think I'd just tell you to keep it a little cooler in this room , because that's getting hot in here , and then I just probably ask you to bring me a coffee next time . I could have sworn , just was going to bring me a coffee . If I walked in , there wasn't any coffee .

Justin 1:18:09

I was told by Lance , you don't want any coffee .

1:18:13

Oh , that's great , Since Lance is an idiot .

Justin 1:18:19

When he did want something , it was like a blonde latte fruit fruit drink . He said you wanted . I said no , dr Lou would never drink that Dr Lou loves him .

1:18:26

A white blonde mocha .

Justin 1:18:28

You know what I mean .

1:18:28

Oh boy .

Justin 1:18:32

Dr Lou , thank you . We couldn't do what we're doing without you . I feel

Armchair Expert Podcast Feedback and Engagement

Justin 1:18:35

inspired . Rhett , I got another seven episodes in me .

Rhett 1:18:38

Seven episodes . How about another 52 ? Where our goal is to do this every Monday . But I know what you're saying , lance . Thank you so much for investing your time , your wisdom , your story to minister to men all across this country and , honestly , around the world .

Justin 1:18:52

Well , engagement is so important to us .

Rate and Review / Reach Out

Justin 1:18:55

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