Armchair Authentic
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Armchair Authentic
E22 | Coffee, Convos, Colors, Logos, Trumpets, Branding, Tik Tok's Banning
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Ever had a musical mishap that left everyone laughing—except for you? Tune in to hear about our friend Ryan's hilarious keyboard fiasco that kick-started our episode with a blend of humor and humility. While we navigate the frustrations of social media bans, particularly our bewildering TikTok ban despite following all guidelines, we also extend heartfelt gratitude to our loyal listeners and newcomers. This episode is packed with real conversations about fulfilling your God-given assignments, interspersed with nostalgic throwbacks to iconic 80s and 90s moments including a spontaneous homage to Phil Collins and the joy of reminiscing about "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure."
Remember struggling with outdated technologies like fax machines? We share a humorous reflection on how modern communication, sometimes fragile as evidenced by a recent AT&T outage, has made us overly dependent on digital assistance. Our discussion ranges from the quirks of brand loyalty—where Kleenex is not just a tissue—to summer vacation stories that highlight the allure of intimate beach destinations. We sprinkle in personal anecdotes about brands like Ed's Pet World and Gateway computers, exploring how branding shapes our choices and brings back fond memories.
Ever found yourself stuck in the decision-making process? We introduce the MAPS framework to help you overcome self-doubt and fear of failure, highlighting the importance of seeking advice from trusted individuals and waiting for divine timing. Our heartfelt beach journey serves as a catalyst for inspiration, sparking new entrepreneurial ideas aligned with a greater mission. Join us as we share the interplay between artistic vision, entrepreneurial spirit, and stewardship, offering you a blend of humor, nostalgia, and inspiration to enrich your personal and spiritual growth.
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Podcast Ban and Coffee Sponsorship
JustinOne , two , you know they get you ready and we're like , yeah , we're getting ready . And three , and Ryan hit that key and it went . It even had that little trill at the end . That was fancy like Everybody busted out in laughter . The only guy that wasn't laughing was Ryan . He was a little ticked like .
RhettThat's the only sound I can get from it . What is going on Armchair Authentic Podcast family ? It's your friends , rhett and Justin , back for another episode of the podcast , trying to help you fulfill your God assignments in life through real conversations about real life , with real people . Justin and I have a really good conversation today , but before we get into it , I simply want to say thank you so much to every single one of you who've taken the time to rate and review the podcast on all your favorite podcast platforms . It is encouraging to hear from you , number one , but the reason we enjoy it more than anything is because it truly is the best way we can serve those who aren't on this journey yet Now . If you're just now joining us for the first time , justin , and I want to say welcome to the family . It is so good to have you on this journey . If you have yet to follow us on Instagram or Facebook , you can find us there at Armchair Authentic , or even on X at Armchair Auth Pod .
RhettNow , justin , and I's desire for this podcast is to include you in on this journey . So we want to hear from you not only on your comments on social , but we would love to have you email us at info at armchairauthenticcom , send us some suggestions , some ideas , maybe some of the even the questions that you're asking right now on your way to work , because we really want to serve you well and the best way we can serve you is by answering questions or talking about the things that are actually on your mind right now , in this moment . So , for those who have emailed us , thank you so much . We're looking forward to having some future episodes in regards to those questions and ideas , and for those who haven't yet email us , we can't wait to hear from you . All right , guys , looking forward to that good conversation . You guys ready , here we go .
JustinLooking forward to that good conversation . You guys ready , here we go . So I go back and forth on our intro . Sometimes I think the long two minutes is really good because it's good to treat it like it's somebody's first time to listen . But then other times I think who cares , we're just jumping right to the content .
RhettOr we could just do that part in the middle . Yeah , we could change it up part in the middle .
JustinYeah , we could change it up Sponsor ourself . Speaking of sponsor , I want to be a sponsor .
RhettIf I said , hey , pick me up , squeeze me and sniff , smell me , what would you be thinking ?
RhettJustin: Right now I'd be thinking I need a new friend .
RhettRhett: I'm just reading the words on this incredible bag of Costa Rica single origin coffee
Rhett.
JustinThat is our coffee today , oh man .
RhettOh goodness . So I shared this with you the other day and I'm going to share this with our online podcast family . We mentioned in a couple of episodes ago that you know you really are , you know you're making an impact when , all of a sudden , the haters and the trolls start showing up and I don't know what happened . This is a shock to me , but you guys , ready for this ? We've actually . Armchair Authentic has reached a new milestone , and that new milestone is we've actually been banned from TikTok .
JustinWe've been banned from TikTok .
RhettDude , you know some of y'all are probably like what I didn't know .
JustinYou had a TikTok because you never mentioned it on the intros and outros .
RhettWe really don't , because it's not really a source of media that we've , I guess , know what we're doing on actually , but everything we posted on Instagram and posted on Facebook and posted on Twitter has been the same content that we've posted on Tik TOK . And so , all of a sudden , the other day , I opened it up , I'm checking , I'm looking , and it said you have had multiple violations , uh , due to our guideline , the community guidelines , which , honestly and I'm talking out loud with you and I'm trying to process this and hopes that some people can help educate us because , um , we never received one warning . We never received . Hey , you guys are crossing the line . And I'm also really confused because we own all the content that we've created . We have licensing for the music , we have licensing for the creative media and video and logos .
RhettWe own logos all of it and everything that we do is uplifting , encouraging , really just saying hey , an episode has dropped . We hope you'll join us .
Communication and Technology Nostalgia
RhettYeah , there are a lot of questionable things on TikTok and all social media platforms that somehow some way in this world's culture . I guess they're OK with it .
JustinYeah .
RhettBut freedom of speech and owning your own licensing and everything that you do . I guess they don't like that . So I've emailed them . So strange , I've emailed them and I was like help me understand what we did , because we would really like to be in good standing .
RhettYeah , Help me , help you , help you , help me help you , help you , help me , help us all help each other , right ? And so if a tiktok user or fan and you could like shed some light on us , email us , let us know , comment on our instagram or facebook or twitter and let us know . But I just thought that was interesting . So you know , I'm doing everything I can to communicate and everything . Every email I send gets sent back with a yeah , you're continued to be banned , like they don't give me any explanation . Because I'm like , hey , show us what we're doing wrong because we'll change it , but I can't , I don't help a brother out .
JustinThis is the world we live in . So there's that . Phil Collins warned us about this . Genesis warned us about this .
RhettThis is the world we live in . Oh , that is awesome dude .
JustinYou totally took my mind back to a place of oh wow . I'm going to definitely add that to my playlist just to kind of get that groove in . How about this one that no one would really know from a movie we loved ?
RhettI don't know , this one You've lost me Sounds like Brian Adams .
JustinCan see . For miles , who is this ? And miles who is this ?
RhettIn time .
JustinBill and Ted's Excellent Adventure . Oh , you're kidding me , do you remember that ? No , I mean , I forgot who even sang that . But it was epic when they went up into the like the time place and all the guys were like doing the strum I just remember that , yeah , the strum of the guitar .
RhettIf you're what ? If you're listening , we're doing the strum right now . It was like bill and ted are .
JustinThey're coming to really be the hope of the world , and that's the song that sends them back out when they get in the phone booth uh I don't approve the movie .
RhettIt's an interesting the things that our parents let us watch . Uh , as a kid , we don't we don't approve it . Bill and ted's yeah , yeah , it's we don't seriously .
JustinWell , I don't . I mean , have you seen it lately ? I mean I like how I feel , like I let my my , my two oldest boys , about four years ago , watch it .
RhettWell , I guess we just have .
JustinI don't know there were there . We have different standards . Evidently there were a couple of scenes , you know I mean I you know when I was like hey guys , I don't think there was a bad scene except for some innuendo stuff that was in there , right ? Yeah , yeah , this is going to be it . I don't know oh man . Oh man .
RhettSo we have been banned from TikTokiktok . So back on that one . This is the world we live , oh we don't know why we've been banned .
JustinNo reason it is the world we live in you don't get any reason you can just be shut down , which is interesting . We're building life on social media platforms . A lot of people are they can shut you down in a moment and there's nothing you can do about it .
RhettAnd you know , honestly , I take that as a badge of honor . Obviously , we've done nothing but inspiring and uplifting , encouraging people and they're like , nope , we don't , we don't have , we don't have time for that . On this , uh , on this , whatever stream or medium , whatever , I don't care .
JustinAnyways , it's wild , they can just take it . I think they're all just testing people . It's like when the AT&T users about three months ago , you woke up one day and all the phones stopped working and it was like what do we do ?
RhettHow am I going to find my family ?
JustinHow do they know what time I'm going to get home ? What do we do ? How am I going to find my ?
Rhettfamily . How do they know what time I'm going to get home ? What do I do ? We stepped back into the 80s really quick . Is what happened ? How do I call ? Oh man . Yeah , because none of us have a landline anymore . I mean if you do have a landline . God bless you , grandma , grandpa .
JustinI don't know , but maybe and it's like I was very interested in actually getting that it's like man , if phones shut down , there does need to be a means of communication , because we've kind of dumbed ourselves down as people . We don't know how to function .
RhettLet me pull out the fax machine Where's .
JustinWalmart GPS . Siri , tell me how to get to Walmart . She's like you mean the one right across the street that you can see from your house . Yeah , give me the directions .
RhettRemember the fax machine .
JustinThose things were like a massive paperweight .
RhettAnd they had the little like silky paper .
JustinI don't know .
RhettThat's the best way . Like the paper would just kind of like curl . I don't know , yeah , what kind of paper that was I have no idea .
JustinI remember leaving a voice message one time that when people would call my house because fax machines were so cool it was the coolest thing you couldn't just afford one and I left a voice message .
RhettI was like you've reached um .
JustinI think it was even when me and summer first got married in 2000 , so they were still somewhat , I mean cool to have . Hey , you've reached the bradshaw residence . Uh sorry , we can't come to the phone right now . Just leave us a message and if you follow the beep . If you'd like to leave us the facts , buy us the fax machine . And I always thought I was so funny . I was like yeah , man I don't remember that I remember that . No , you like to buy us the facts no , do you remember ?
Justinyou like to leave a fax ? Buy us the facts .
RhettIt's so funny when . So funny when voicemails it wasn't a voicemail then it was an answer machine . Yeah , you know , everybody's gathered around like , hey , this is whatever you know . But then they had those commercials where you could like buy the tape that were like we're not home right now . Do , do , do , do , you know there ?
Justinwere all these like creative ways ?
Rhettto leave voicemails , voicemails , answering machine message . What did we call it then ? Was it a message on my answering machine ? Voicemail is so much easier .
JustinI'm trying to pull up , literally . Here's mine . I've had this forever it's my two oldest when they were little . Okay , let's see if I can get this to play . Okay , you reached the phone of Justin Bradshaw . Please leave your name and number and send him a message and he'll call you back , and the best way to reach him is by email justincom , I was like I can't get rid of it .
JustinThat is so awesome Dax and Kai . They're little bitty guys that is so cool and the best way to reach him is email . It's basically hey guys , let people know I don't want to return voicemails .
RhettTell them to email me if they want to get a hold of me . Every city in America now is going to be emailing you ?
JustinDo we beep that out ? Do we go back and edit that ? You may have noticed that that email gets beeped out .
RhettYeah , okay , info it , I'm Jill , here I come . Well , I remember there was a day in time where you'd call your buddy and it's a voicemail , but you didn't realize it was a voicemail . It was like hey yeah , man . Hey , how are you ? Hold on one second ? Yeah , I'm doing . Are you doing ? Good man , how are you doing ? I'm not here right now , but if you leave your name and number , I'll get back to you as soon as possible .
JustinOh man , I love doing it , but I hate it being the recipient yeah , I'm like dude , it's so good .
RhettOh man , yeah , no problem , I'll hang for a minute , okay , you know you're like you just got played foe .
JustinYou got totally played it always and every time .
RhettIt's worse when you fall for it the second and third time you're finally like or , or the dude would actually answer it and do the same thing like I'm sick of your . No dude , it's really mean , are you ? Serious hang up on you oh , what was the difference between the white pages and ?
Justinthe yellow pages . The difference was white pages was actually how you contacted people , and then yellow pages is where you could reach out to businesses why do I think that's so funny ?
RhettI just like . So the white pages were for people , but the yellow pages were for people , but they were people , businesses . It was the businesses .
JustinIf you needed a dental appointment , call the yellow pages . If you needed to call Tony , your buddy , look up the white pages .
RhettSo how does this help people fulfill their God assignment ? I do not know . That's the beauty of this conversation .
JustinThis is called episode . Is this going to keep being a podcast or not ? This is going to be called to be or not to be a podcast .
RhettHey , speaking of every episode that Justin and I listen to , I would actually be lying if I said every episode , because we're not always drinking coffee . Well , we are so , Justin was kind enough to bring over some coffee this morning , and so today's episode has been brought to you by bones bones coffee company it's terrible branding , by the way because they don't even have the brand name on your side I know I'm like , so I'm having to read it .
RhettWell , it's right here at the bottom . It's on the bottom , it's not great . So I don't know if you've ever heard of bones coffee company .
JustinUm , it's good my brother got it for my birthday , so thanks bo yeah , it's costa rica single origin coffee , medium roast .
RhettIt's so on the back . I thought this was funny on the bag . Can you hear it on the microphone ? I'm kind of shaking it here . It sounds like an egg shaker . Uh , it said . It says smell me , squeeze and sniff . So so I did this and I'm . It smells like it came from the region of Coto Bruce , costa Rica . Justin .
JustinIt does . It smells just like a toucan .
RhettThe weight of this feels like it's a medium roast , the smell smells coconutty with milk chocolate and I feel like the process for this coffee was washed . So how did you get so smart at coffee , Rhett ? I'm reading the label . Actually that's what I'm doing .
JustinBecause branding is everything .
RhettBranding is everything , the power of branding , and I would say Bones Coffee . I don't know much about you . I need to look you up , but we've got to work on your branding .
JustinIt's true .
RhettAnd they're not paying us , so we can . Yeah , they're definitely not paying us free at all . The coffee's good , though , like I enjoyed it this morning , how about ?
Justinyou . I love the coffee . It was , it's good . It's really good . Single origin blend . It was nice , that's good so with the power branding .
RhettLiterally , I'm looking at a box of uh , kleenex over here , yeah . So it's interesting to me how we call tissues kleenex , but they're actually tissues . Yeah , nobody says hand me a tissue .
JustinAnd do you say , hand me a tissue ? And you just like , blew people's mind by saying that . Yeah , because they've never thought about that until now .
RhettI don't know , I never run into somebody . Will you hand me a tissue ? I'm like , hey , will you hand me a Kleenex ?
JustinRight .
RhettIsn't it amazing , I ? I'm like , if you're cleaning out your ears , you're not asking for hey , will you hand me a cotton swab , right ? No , you're asking for what ?
Justinq-tip , q-tip that's right synonymous people .
RhettI looked this up earlier I was like q , what does that even mean ? It's not even in the shape of a q , and the q stands for quality cotton swab . That that's what it means . You're getting a quality cotton swab on the tip of this little stick to put in your ear , in which , by the way , they're not even designed to put in your ear . It's so interesting to me . We all , I don't know , am I the only one that uses those to clean your ears out every morning ?
JustinI think I've always used them , but when I realized it wasn't , it was one of those Ben Stiller movies back in the day where he made a big deal out of he did not use Q-tips to clean his ear because , it's bad for your ear Because it shows a scene when he later gets his ear cleaned and it's the nastiest . Oh , I don't want to see that Nastiest scene .
RhettI actually had to have that happen once . I was having some inner problems and I was like don't know what it is . Went to the doctor . I was having some inner problems and I was like don't know what it is . Went to the doctor , they flushed out all the you know wax and everything on both ears and that is a weird process to have somebody like put something on your head and be like spraying hot water in your ear . Oh man , I bet Ugh .
JustinI bet it was good , though it was weird . It was kind of like ah , I had crammed down in my ear using's kind of like , cute like I feel like this is good , but then not good , and it's like , oh , I don't am I enjoying this , am I not ?
RhettI mean , I you know , and it didn't solve the issue
Brand Loyalty and Summer Vacations
Rhett. Um so , the power of branding . And here's some examples kleenex , we don't call they , we don't call them for what they are their tissue , q-tips , cotton swabs . Got one more for you , you can blow your mind band-aids . They're not called band-aids . Wow , they're adhesive bandages , but the company Band-Aids has branded the adhesive bandages to where nobody says hey , will you hand me an adhesive bandage ? I'm bleeding Right , give me a band-aid , give me that band-aid . I mean , come on . So there's power in it , I think . So why do you buy what you buy ? Do you buy it for the brand ? Are you for the brand ? Are you loyal to the brand ? Are you you ?
Justincould you care less when you go to the store , would you ? What about you ? Oh yeah , I mean , I'm definitely brand loyal , um , from the smallest things to like , even guitar I mean instrumentation brand's huge . I mean it . To me it's everything going into different cafes . There's a different vibe . For me it it's all we were talking before on this that coffee . A lot of times it's . You can have great coffee in many , many places , but there are spaces I will not go into because I don't like the vibe .
RhettI'll tell you this If you look up Bones Coffee and look up their Costa Rica bag , I would not walk into a coffee house that looks like this .
JustinNo , Just off the packaging . No , it's like that looks like Ed's Pet World and I smell it . I can just smell the guinea pig smell .
RhettEd's Pet World .
JustinHere we go now Ed's Pet World , so I'm not going to that cafe when we going ? Ed's Pet World .
RhettOh my God , If you're not from the Birmingham alabama area . We got to talk about ed's pet world it's a special place oh my god , it no longer exists , because there's like I mean before I , I've never seen the netflix episode of tiger king or whatever badges we don't need no stinking badges .
RhettWe're teaching poodles how to fly , Okay All right you know it's like oh man , like Ed God bless him had to be a , I don't know . Maybe if there's people in Birmingham that knew him and are family , please don't judge me . He's probably a great guy , but he seemed like you walk in everything's out of its cages , I thought .
JustinI was going gonna get bit by an alligator .
RhettYou got snakes just crawling around , birds flying , you got it's just chaos . It's like land of the free . You know they were all the animals and and how that place did not get shut down . I mean , it was like walking into the behind the scenes of a zoo without any cages .
JustinIt was and , uh , that's exactly what this thing looks like yeah , so I would not walk into that cafe .
RhettSo power , power of branding , anyway . So why do you buy what you buy ? Do you buy them because you're loyal to the brand , or comfort , or price , or anyway ?
JustinYep , it's all about . To me , it really is . It's all about the brand .
RhettSo when you get prescription drugs from the doctor . Do you pay for the generic or the brand name ?
JustinWell , there's sometimes that cheapskate comes out . I'll get generic when it comes to medicine .
RhettI'm like is it the same thing , Like the Walmart brand I'm like . Compare to Advil .
JustinMaybe I don't trust all the big pharma . I'm like , oh gosh , yeah , they're just trying to make some money off me now . But a guitar that you pay your money for , you get what you pay for .
RhettDrugs . I'm talking prescription drugs from the doctor Anyway . I know Okay .
JustinStill , I think that's just fear mongering . I only use his name brand . No , the generic same thing . Okay , it's like Kirkland brand if you are familiar with Costco . Oh yeah , A lot of those are actually roasted in like Starbucks facilities . So you're getting Starbucks coffee but you're getting a Kirkland brand .
RhettIt's interesting to me how the power of a package it's the same product but the packaging it comes in plays on the psyche , you know .
JustinTotally All day long . It's like our computers right here , macbook Pros yeah , love them .
RhettYeah , they're great .
JustinIt's like you just feel creative and I know that the computer world's done a great job , coming out with some more sleek designs , even with , you know , dell , microsoft , all these other brands , but , you know , is Dell still in business ?
Rhettyeah , they are . What was the store ? Computer store back in the uh 90s , late 90s , early 2000 . It had the like the cal print on it , white and black gateway , was it ? Gateway computers yeah , they they had like huge gateway stores . It's like is a yeah , was that they still ?
Justindo those . Is that Microsoft brand ? I don't know At all .
RhettI always .
JustinIt's so interesting I always thought Bill Gates gateway . I always thought it was hand in hand , but maybe it didn't so but yeah , brand's huge .
RhettIf you're joining us for the first time , you're catching up . We obviously had a couple of weeks off since we've last recorded . You went on a vacation , I went on a vacation . It's interesting that our little mini breaks of summer vacation happened on the same week , without even planning it , because I don't want the secret to get out because , like where you were , everybody was where I was . It's still very intimate and just like I don't want to even tell people because it's just like a few high rise , like two restaurants . I'm on the same type of beach .
JustinYou can still walk on the white powdery beach and not be filled with so many people and feel like I can't sit here because this belongs to the property of nope .
RhettYeah yeah , a whole stretch of miles of just yeah white sand and no high rises and just some homes and yeah so I'll , I guess I'll tell people like , where did you go ? So it's your , your's your cause it's your beach .
JustinIt's your freedom .
RhettSo we went to Navarre Beach , florida . So if you're looking for the type of place that you could go and ride go-karts and flip upside down and be shot into the sky and have arcades and parties and clubs and all the other crazy stuff that different beach-type scenarios offer you , this is not for you , no , okay . So this is the place you go , like with your family to , where you're just really there for two things Beach , sand , pool . Yeah , that's it .
RhettAnd so we , man , we went , we had a good time . We had a great time , in fact . You know , I know there's a lot of controversy around the you know shark type stuff that's been happening and my heart goes out to those who have impacted , who have been impacted by that . But , man , I've been , I grew up around the ocean and I love it and I call it the ocean .
RhettIt's the Gulf of Mexico , but it's still the ocean to me and I get it and every time I've been in the water , I've always been around marine life , including sharks and manta rays and all those things , and so I've , you know , I'm with my dad , my dad's like you didn't get in the water , did you ? I was like , of course I did , why wouldn't I ? You know , I'm just that kind of person . And uh , and so we got in a kayak , we went out . Dude , we were literally , we went out . Um , navarre has one of the longest piers in the state of Florida . It was like I don't know 1,600 feet long .
RhettSo , we got , we rented these kayaks , we went out in the water and , dude , there were literally . I mean , I'm not making this up , I'm not exaggerating at all , this is not the evangelist in me , but the dolphin were right there within at least 10 , 15 yards of us . It was so cool from the sharks I know , that's what I'm .
JustinDolphins , that's what I care business .
RhettThat's what I told linda , you know . I told her I said look anywhere there's dolphins . They're . I mean , are there sharks ? Yeah , but they're gonna stay away from the dolphins because , dolphins . I don't know what it is , but they're like it's that loud , annoying sound . Oh man , they'll come and circle around them and hit them on the nose and they just , they annoy them sharp yeah .
RhettSo we had a great time it was . I was very thankful and very grateful that I had a chance to get away with the family and get to my happy place , and so we went to Navarra Beach . We drove over to the—so if you're not familiar with the Gulf Coast , you know there's all these cities . It starts from Gulf Shores , Alabama yes , there is a beach in Alabama . It's beautiful . And then you work your way going over to the East and you get into Florida and there's Pensacola beach , and then there's this , uh , beautiful national seashore of just like 10 miles of nothing but sand . It's an Island . And then there's that's when you land into Navarre beach , and then you get over to Fort Walton , Destin seaside uh , you know all the 38 areas over in the Panama city and it's beautiful , and so a lot of us end up . Well , we're four hours away , it's not that far . So it was a good time . So I came back very inspired . How about you ?
JustinOh , yeah , same . It's always great to get back from the beach . That's where , you know , we just grew up going there and it's very much the culture around the area of the country that we live and I think everybody loves the thought of being by a body of water . Yeah , I know you lived away from it for a while , but yeah , it's always special . We decided to take our dog with us this time .
JustinLet's go , we've never taken a dog with us to the beach and , man , that's a whole journey in itself because you got to actually find a beach house that will let you have a pet . There's obviously the extra cost that comes with it , but I've never explored it so I've never been aware that , like , dogs aren't even allowed on the beach . That's so weird . I mean , I get it , I get it now . I don't think I've ever thought about it before . I think there's certain places .
JustinThey allow them to be there are , well , and if you're a resident of whatever state you're in , that has a beach . You can actually apply for a license to have a dog on the beach .
RhettOkay .
JustinWell , we weren't residents so we couldn't get all that approved . But what was cool is we did some research and where we stayed we were more on this 30A kind of area . You've heard of Seaside , seagrove , all these places . We stayed there but then we researched it and there's a place called Pier Park .
RhettThat's there .
JustinBut then we , we researched it and there's a place called pier park . That's on the near panama city .
RhettThat's right . It's heading towards panama city .
JustinThat's like a new like it's a kind of a new development .
RhettI don't know , maybe it's 10 , 15 , 20 years old .
JustinIt's very touristy , but yeah , that's it feels new and it's it's I mean , it's really , it's the new place to be , where it used to be further east .
Justinyeah , it's like a boardwalk down the beach Right and they based it literally all around this pier and for you dog owners out there who've always wanted to take your dog to the beach , there's actually to the right of that pier , if you're looking out the gulf you have this probably 300 yards of beach that you can bring your dog to and it literally walks right up to the pier so you can experience the pier kind of life underneath it and , um , that was really cool , like we've never experienced that life .
JustinAnd , yeah , so we did the dog thing dealt with the mess of sand and ocean , and how was that ?
RhettI mean , this was like , oh look , he's joking in the water and having a time and it's like clumps of sand and nasty once it's all said , none it was .
JustinIt was , it was nasty , it smelled like a wet dog .
RhettIt did yeah , so there's the cost with everything , yeah , but yeah , we did that , and but overall , good food , good swimming , yeah , but good sun it's fun that you took the step , because now you have a memory with it and , yes , there's always the bad that comes with that kind of stuff and is it bad , I don't know , but it's a fun memory .
JustinYeah , you know it's a lot of sacrifice . It and is it bad , I don't know , but it's a fun memory . Yeah , you know it's a lot of sacrifice . It really is , but everything worth experiencing . You know there's a sacrifice for something that's great . So the memory is awesome and we got back in the groove . And that's the coffee pot , that's our bones . Coffee is reminding us I'm still hot over here .
Rhettit's like come and drink another like is this the trumpet sound ? What , what is ?
Justinhappening right now . Talk about the trumpet . I'll never , forget . I love how this we can just literally shift on a dime of yeah , man , I'm just saying because the you know you probably heard it . I would imagine you could hear the beeping in the background was our coffee reminding us that it's still on it's warmer hey , uh , you , you gonna drink me over here .
JustinIt's like come , don't just sniff and scratch , but come and drink .
Color Associations and Childhood Memories
JustinTalking about the trumpet , you know , when you say that , I think back to one night when we were in when the midnight ? Well , I don't even know if you may have actually been in a you may have been in big church yeah night .
JustinBut we had this youth pastor . He was there and wanted to have this moment where he was talking about how , when they marched around the wall and they shouted and the trumpet sounded and the walls came down , and it was this epic moment and we were up there as a worship team where we were going to bring in some music and start singing together , and he really I mean you got to hand it to him . He worked this moment of awesome . He looked at Ryan , who listens to this podcast . So shout out to our buddy , ryan , amazing , amazing piano player musician . He is just , he's brilliant at it . And so he calls Ryan up . He's like Ryan . He's like find me a good trumpet sound . And so Ryan's ready and we haven't tested anything out , but we're ready , we're I mean he's getting us hyped up and even as the band , we're like jumped and we're ready to like scream .
JustinAnd he said when y'all hear this trumpet , I want you guys to lift up a shout for the Lord . And so he said that . And he was like y'all ready ? One , two , you know they get you ready . Now I'm about to say three . You know it's like WrestleMania . And we're like , yeah , we're getting ready . And he says , and three , and Ryan hit that key . We envisioned the sound of like it's really majestic . And he hit this button . It went . It even had that little trill at the end . That was fancy like . In the room the youth pastor tried to manufacture excitement but the room wouldn't buy it and everybody busted out in laughter . The only guy that wasn't laughing was ryan . He was a little ticked with the sound .
JustinIf you knew ryan , his nickname was riny riny and he just was so ticked like there's the only sound I can get from it , and he said band , just just bring in a chord . So we just brought in like a g chord and we started going from there . But that moment of the trumpet it was about the about as loud as that coffee maker over there , oh man .
RhettThe keyboard . They didn't quite have them , like they do now .
JustinOh man , that's why you need to test things before you set it up in the moment . There's a lot to be said with that .
RhettThat was for you , ryan . Oh my gosh , I'm going to throw something at you and I didn't even tell you I was going to do this . So I want you to tell me the first thing that you think of when I name a color . All right , all right , I'm gonna give you a few colors . I want you to just name the very first thing you think . All right , all right , first thing that comes to mind . All right , so when you think of the color red , what do you think of ?
Justinmy um red , my nike jacket I used to always wear as a kid . Okay , okay , yellow , my God , these are jerseys , my goalie Jersey .
RhettOkay , purple .
JustinOur friends , uh , that they went with you to Idaho .
RhettOkay .
JustinI think of Heather , cause her favorite color is purple . All right Black . The outfits that I wear every day .
RhettBlue .
JustinMy son Dax , cause he loves that color . Day Blue . My son Dax , because he loves that color . Okay , white Surrender .
RhettOh , there you go . Okay , so mine were red Ferrari , okay , yellow McDonald's , okay , purple Barney , black Johnny Cash . Oh , blue the ocean and white was peace . I don't know why , I don't know why , yeah , anyway , the ocean and white was peace .
JustinI don't know why . I don't know why .
RhettAnyway , I just don't know why it's interesting . I'm curious . When I said those colors would be really interesting , we had a way to hear back what people think .
JustinI like that the moment that it comes in your head . It was good .
RhettBut branding , talk about branding . A lot of that had to do with clothing .
JustinIt did things , yeah . So I'll never forget that red and black jacket I had . That's the first thing . When you say red , it's like man the coca-cola jacket , or was that my ? No , it was a nike okay it was a nike warm-up , and I mean , the other thing that would hit my head was kai , because my second oldest loves to color red gotcha , but for some reason that popped in my head . I almost said sub-zero too so mortal combat .
RhettHe was blue so I know we're jumping around , but back to the beach and you're talking about your dog . What else did you guys do ?
Justinthat was that you came back with yeah , I mean that was , it
Creative Inspiration and Funding Mission Work
Justinwas just . I mean me and summer , when we're in that , just that drive to the beach . You know our kids are . We have four boys . They're all at that age of , they've got the headphones on the apple airpods . They're , they're online , they're in their world and it gives me in summer , this time where we'll take our like my airpods , I'll put one in my left ear .
JustinI'm driving and I'll let her take my other one , put it in her right ear and we'll listen to things together . Yeah , but our ears that are closest to the center of the car are still in tune that if our kids need anything , that's good .
JustinAnd so we're very much into um , like we love , from marriage ministry to even just your , your authentic self . I mean , that's really one of our big messages , and I think that when we're coaching people and helping people , we're in that world . So to me , vacation , the trip there and back represents we're in this learning mode . Even though you think vacation it's like you're chilling out . For us it's this learning mode of just stuff that we know that we're going to be doing together , and so that's how it was . For us it's relaxing when I get home . So when I get back , I'm revved up and ready with everything I do , from Highlands to Highlands College to the stuff that you know , the coaching and the consulting that I do .
RhettThat's really good . Well , I came away , so it's interesting , so you go on vacation , but yet it's inspiring . And so , no matter where I go , I'm always inspired by creativity and no matter what moment I walk into like the beach type moment I came back , you know , I was thinking about it the whole time . I'm looking , I'm observing , I'm always trying to keep my eye open to see things that people can't see , and I'm noticing some stuff that doesn't exist and I'm like , hmm , right , and then I put that filter , that through my entrepreneurship eyes and I begin to think , oh , wow , okay , I'm noticing a need that doesn't exist . Now , there are things that exist in this category , don't get me wrong but that aren't necessarily something that I would buy or purchase , right . And I'm thinking , if my style is a certain way , I'm believing that other people's style might be the certain way and they're like man , I'd really like to walk away with some stuff . Yeah , if you will , oh , yeah , but I'm not just going to spend money on something that , yeah , you know .
RhettSo , anyway , I came back inspired . So then I came back with this idea and this creativity that I'll share later and you're thinking like , wow , this I don't know if anything , I might be able to do something with it . And so here's what I began to think is how can I create something that funds what needs to be funded ? Something that funds what needs to be funded , in other words , a lot of the inspiration things that God has given me from ministry are things that need to be funded in order to do for free , like the missions work that we're doing with pastors across the country and offering relief to them in the form of preaching or time off or whatever that might look like right , and so that needs funding . So my creativity came back from my inspiration point of what can I create that's in my hand and use that would generate funds for what needs to be funded . So good .
RhettAnd so I'm just , I don't know man , I was inspired , I came through , I showed you some things and I'll mention it . Maybe you know , as we get closer Once you get it more developed you know , as we get closer , to get more developed . Yeah , but I'm just in this vision mindset right now where I'm like writing down the vision and creating something that doesn't exist . Right and just from design to just I don't know man , it's just really I , I'm , I'm , I'm very refreshed .
JustinWell , I think it's one of the things that draws us together so much all of our life , because there's that artistic and entrepreneurial side that we know , that we talk about , because it's constantly new ideas , but it is . I mean you could look at something and say , oh , I don't like that , let me create it , yep , but I love how you said that , that what if that's an ? You're creating an opportunity to fund something that's going to allow you to further fund what you you really have a deep sense of mission for you're stewarding the call of god in your life , because he didn't just make you like a person who works in ministry .
JustinHe's also giving you these other gifts for you to go steward and you're really looking outside of , you're breaking down these walls that we can kind of build up these fortresses and it's like boom . The fortress must come down so that you can see outside and operate in full creativity , which will actually it'll help you be the unique god branding of who he created you to be .
Decision-Making Process and Accountability
RhettI'm tired of coming up with ideas and just not doing anything with them .
JustinYeah .
RhettI think a lot of people God has spoken and inspired and they talk themselves out of it , agreed Because of , well , this or that , and I'm like what's the worst case scenario that could possibly happen if this doesn't work ? What's the worst ? What is it Like ? I'm like out a few that can possibly happen . Yeah , if this doesn't work , what's the worst ? What is it Like ?
RhettI'm like out a few , you know thousand bucks or something I mean or whatever , like I mean , I've lived long enough to see that there is nothing that can hold me back from doing whatever it is that is in my heart . And so I think , if you're listening to this and you're young or you're old and you're got an idea and you're thinking I'd really like to see this come to fruition , can I just say , write it down , man , write it down process , it put it down , begin to share that idea with a few trusted people and share it and go hey , what do you think about this ?
RhettWhat is it like ? And if you don't know how to create a brand or a logo or whatever or something that comes along with that , email me . I'll help you . Do what I can . Why not take a step , man ? That's what I felt like when we planted the church . I was like what do I have to lose ? I think I told you guys that when we moved , I was like you know , if this doesn't work , I mean at least we were obedient , took a step , and what's the worst that can happen ? You have to come back home . Yeah , so all my friends and family ? Okay , is that a bad thing ? No , and the church is still going on .
RhettI talked to the pastor yesterday . Man , it's amazing what God's doing . But I all that to say . I'm just thinking that this creativity and these ideas and and the things that God's put in you , it's like don't wait just , but you have to write it down . But it's so interesting to me when you begin to write it down and you see it in ink or in print or on the digital screen , whatever . It's amazing how , all of a sudden . Now it's coming to life because you're seeing it and you're ruminating on it and it's churning , and then just don't try to . Here's the thing that I was telling you and I was telling other people . I said I'm in this creative process where nothing , I don't , nothing's impossible . Don't tell me how this can't work . I want to think about all the things that , just like I don't , I'm not trying to be practical . This is dream state .
JustinThrow it out there , come up with the craziest ideas , put it on paper , because what I've found , man , is like no-transcript , and it's a step that you put yourself through when you're making a decision , and so it's like M stands for motivation and I like to ask myself does this ? So I ask myself three questions on motivation . Does this glorify God ?
RhettThat's good .
JustinAnd that has to be a yes for you to proceed . Yeah , and you know what Glorifying God is very , very .
RhettIt doesn't have to live with inside the local church .
JustinNo , that is a very broad stroke right there .
RhettIt's like the idea that I'm creating right now to fund what needs to be funded this is not going to be a . Christian ministry . That's right . This is going to be a product that is sold in the marketplace . That's right .
Justinyes , that actually feeds and funds ministry and you taking pleasure in creating the person who created and roasted this coffee . If he took pleasure or she took pleasure in making this , that is an act of you . Are glorifying God in the sense of greatness . So that's a very broad stroke , but I still look at that motivation side of does this action glorify ?
RhettGod .
JustinThe second one is does it build up others ? So maps , you have motivation . First question does it glorify God ? The second question under M is does it build up others ?
RhettYeah , that's good .
JustinAnd it doesn't have to do that when you could skip to the third . And the third one is does it help me develop my core ?
Rhettmy self-concept of who I am .
JustinSo it's either developing somebody else or you're developing yourself . Because you've got to be moving in the right direction in life or you're going backwards . So that's the motivation side .
RhettWhich I can . I pause there . I love it .
JustinIt's God , others then self .
RhettExactly it's like , but there's . Those are kingdom principles that are found in God's word that elevate you and some people only think of others like they'll scripturally think of others .
JustinYou gotta look after yourself before you can really be a help to others .
JustinIt's putting on the mask in the airplane before you put the oxygen mask on somebody else and then so A stands for advice Like , first of all , have you prayed about it ? The number one advice you're going to get is from the Holy Spirit . Have you prayed about it ? The second one is have you sought the advice from the authorities , the pastors , the leaders , the mentors , the coaches , the counselors , the parents , the spouse in your life ? So it doesn't mean they have to back it up , but have you put yourself through the process to allow them to maybe poke a hole in it that you didn't see ?
JustinOnce again , praying about it is essential . The other parts at least go through the process to get their common thought of your endeavor , those trusted friends you were talking about . You take what they say and you still proceed , but it's the act of putting people in your life and not being on an island by yourself with a decision Love it . So that would be the advice side . Uh , p stands for peace and that's the simple uh two questions Is there peace , is there no peace ? Yeah , and if you do not feel that peace to proceed , you just don't do it , stay away from it .
JustinYep and so , and the last one is S , and it stands for steps . So now it's time to take the step . And you look at the previous things . If you've taken all the other things into consideration , is there peace ? Yes , then take the step as an act of worship and just do it . If there's not peace , then continue to do what you're already doing , knowing you may bring it back up for reassessment and it might be a season to do it or God will burn it away and you won't even have the desire , or you might just live with the pain of . You have a desire that you can't do anything with , and that's part of the suffering side as a follower of Christ , and there is so much to be gained in that . So I call that the maps filter when making a decision .
RhettNo , that's really good and it is a process . It doesn't happen overnight or quickly , but it's just this whole churning and ruminating and not being in a hurry in in in really just going down the check marks of just accountability to yourself , but also having inviting other people to show you blind spots , even inviting God into that , which I love that . I'm glad you came back to the peace part , because I was sitting there thinking , yeah , you might not have peace in this moment . It doesn't mean that's a bad idea or doesn't need to be accomplished , right , right , but it could be , you know .
RhettI always think about in 2015 , when I felt like the Lord was putting the calling in our heart to plant a church . Yeah Well , we knew that that was a part . I mean , we went through this maps process but there were moments where it was like we don't have a piece to do this right now .
JustinRight , but then when that happens , then you're like , or future episodes of things that I've actually done , where I've gone through the motivation , I've gone through the advice , I've gone through the peace portion . It was a non-peace , even after receiving the cheers and the rooting you on to go do what you thought you were going to that you were motivated to do . All of a sudden there was no peace and my step was I remained doing what I was doing .
RhettYeah , and I would say on the advice part , that's where it's so important to have the right people in your life .
RhettYou don't need , yes , people , but you need people in your life who can be honest and honoring , they can be like to help . You see all sides , because you're not asking them for permission . You know , you know , and like I'm not asking for permission , what I feel like God's kind of inspiring in me right now for this , but I am looking to say , hey , what are some things that I might not be seeing about this ? And knowing what you know and within the industry you're in , how , how would I best need to steer this ? You know , how should I steer the rudder on this ship to point me in the direction , to get me toward the place that I need to , you know , to to be where you're calling me to be , or for this to to grow to the level that it needs to grow to , or not grow to , and really just to kind of say where are the blind spots and the things that I'm not seeing that you , that you could show me , cause I'm I'm emotionally attached . You're not , that's right . Yeah , because advice when you're
Seeking Peace for Decision Making
Rhetttalking about .
JustinThere's two different columns . You've got your relational connections column in the sense of friends , and you don't want to be listening to the acquaintances or the casual friends . You want people who are at least cohorts doing what you're doing , or they're close friends , or they're intimate friends . I don't mean that of a lover like , meaning you are intimate friends . You know every secret , I know every secret . Yep , I'm going to be asking your advice because you've earned that place . And then those I call these automatic qualifiers of people . They might not have the time of a ret barden in my life , but maybe it's your pastor , maybe it is your counselor , who you just started getting counsel from a counselor , a licensed counselor , maybe a month ago , right . But you give them an automatic qualifier because of the role they're in and you automatically have a trust . So they get to give the advice and you listen to it . But then , as you were saying , rhett , you take the advice everybody gave and you still have to move it forward to see how it sits with you .
RhettWhich is the peace factor .
RhettExactly Because after receiving that , settling on it , allowing the Holy Spirit . You know . God , the Father , god the Son , god , the Holy Spirit . God , the Holy Spirit is what's alive and active on the earth . Today . People say , well , jesus is in my heart . No , he's not . The Holy Spirit is in your heart . That's right , right . The Holy Spirit is what testifies to Christ in your life . And so God the Father is on the throne , jesus is at the right hand of the Father , seated there , praying and making intercession for us , and then he sent the power of the Holy Spirit .
RhettSo , if you've never heard those terms or that terminology , really that's the very breath of God that's alive and active on the earth , that brings heaven to earth , including wisdom , knowledge , understanding , insight , direction , peace . And so when we pray and we ask God , the Holy Spirit , to move in us , we're asking for heaven to move in our hearts , to allow us to have that peace that transcends all understanding , that guards our heart , that says you know what , despite all efforts that are against me , I have peace to move forward and I know we're going to take this ground and we're going to do this against all odds . Or you know what ? I don't have peace to move forward , even though I know I could force this and make this happen , and it still be what's somewhat successful , but it wouldn't necessarily have the blessing of God on it in a way that will be fruitful , because I don't have a peace , but I'm going to try to force it .
JustinI think , that's a .
RhettI think that's a powerful thing you can talk about in so many different areas of life . You know we call it creating an Ishmael , right ? It's like well , god's not moving at the rate that I want them to move , and I know I don't necessarily have a piece , but my God , I know .
RhettWe're going to make it , it will have on the outside , it will produce fruit , because there's a law in that . Yeah , but do you really want to create something that's not necessarily completely blessed and favored by God in your life , with His anointing on it , his touch , if you will , to go and produce fruit ? That's going to be lasting , you know , and it's like man . So sometimes it's better to wait until you have that peace and allow the Lord to open the doors that he needs to open in the right time and right moment to see these things come to fruition . Sometimes you have to take steps in order to find out I don't have peace , because sometimes it's like , well , I don't necessarily have a peace , or don't have a peace , but I still need to make some movement . And in the movement that I'm making , that's where doors are either open or shut and you begin to realize , yeah , I don't have a piece here because I'm I'm taking steps and rather than just sit around , well , I'm just waiting on God to show up .
JustinMan , I mean , you know , your official step is the one that's like the step to officially do it . You've already taken these little bits of the process that you're you're , you're working . It's like you're ideating , you're conceptualizing and then it's like now it's time to implement . If you don't watch out , you can get the . You've passed everything you need to , you have peace and now you just got to do it . And that can be tough for people and it reminds me of .
JustinIt was in the late 90s . I'll honor really my first pastor , pastor Randy Williams . Our pastor Randy Williams , first seven years of my life surrendered to Christ . He really helped build that foundation for me . But he took me in the late nineties . He said , hey , come with me . And we went to go watch John Maxwell . He was doing like an event at one of our big auditoriums and just packed out with thousands of people there . I had never heard of him and so I'm listening to this message . And John Maxwell now we know him well . He's come and talked a lot , especially in our circles of Pastor Chris . He's truly like a son to John Maxwell . Well , I'm listening to him speak and at the end of it . He always is great about leaving you on a screaming kind of moment like play the trumpet sound right .
JustinAnd John Maxwell tells a story about his oh no we're going to never forget that .
RhettI'm sorry , never , never .
JustinYeah , it's so good , but he tells a story , and it might've been his nephew , grandchild , I can't remember which one , but he was playing in the championship game , little League Baseball .
RhettOkay .
JustinAnd it's two strikes and it's like three balls and bases are loaded and they're down , like they're only down by one point , okay , like a base hit is going to actually bring two in , okay , even on the worst hit . And so he's there and the pitcher pitches and he lets it go past him . It's a strikeout , and he talks about the agony that he went through wondering what would have happened , and he told his grandson you'll never know .
JustinYou'll never know unless you swing the bat . So good , and he used that truth and he began walking around to the stage . Literally , he'd be like you'll never know unless you swing the bat . And so he started walking to every part of the stage and he'd do a swing formation swing the bat . And he's trying to tell the crowd and motivate them like there's something in your heart , go for it . And I'm sitting there and it was really cool because I had just overcome some wounds where I kind of shut down with a recent disbandment that we had gone through with , ironically , a band that we played in together that was really ripped out from us . Yeah , and I was going through some hurt with that and in that moment , through the voice of John Maxwell , it was the Holy Spirit speaking to me saying hey , justin , swing the bat , go , start another band . And that would be when I came home that night and started the next band , me and you and the name we referenced earlier , ryan Jennings .
RhettHis Image Band and some other friends with His Image Band .
JustinThat's what started that at a John Maxwell event I had the courage finally to swing the bat .
RhettI never knew that story , that's why we do this podcast .
JustinI love that . I never you know what's interesting .
RhettI was thinking like how in the world did we go from all the whatever we were talking about earlier which was nonsense , but just our relationship and conversation to this is so cool to see how the Holy spirit leads and guides to actually , because some people are like is there anything worth taking home out of ?
Justinthis Right , I mean we're going off the air . I feel invigorated . We're going from yellow pages and white pages .
RhettOh , in my mind I'm right , I'm already .
JustinLike I already know it's going to be edited out , but they're not going to be hearing right now because we're going to save . We're going to salvage this thing , oh my gosh .
RhettBut like , yeah , I never knew that . But you know it's interesting you say that . But you could flip the story too , because what if you did swing the bat in right , let's say you missed yeah you might be thinking well , what if I would have just sat there and waited for the right pitch ? It could be used both ways it goes back to .
JustinThere was peace , though exactly there was peace to do it .
RhettExactly so . I think about it in the sense of maybe you have swung the bat and you missed , you know , because maybe you were too aggressive , yeah , and you were trying to make things happen . You didn't put it through the proper process Right , and maybe your step was to wait for the right pitch , for the right door to open in that right moment , to be there where it was a ball , and then God opened the opportunity for you to walk God can work in both scenarios is what I'm trying to say .
RhettSo , yes , swing the bat , but also you might be at a place where you need to wait instead of forcing the door open , allow God to open the door to walk you to first , to get that person from third to home plate . What a great angle . I'm just saying you know motivations , right ?
JustinThat we can't do it off that , because me and you were talking the other day and I was saying how you've inspired me so many years and it would take too long for us to jump in these stories . But a quick one to say is I still remember going to Nampa , idaho , to watch you launch One Life Church and I was just so excited for you , as we were there , to see 262 people actually come in Idaho Like this is unheard of . That's like having 800 show up in the South . I mean it was massive . And so I ended up getting on an airplane and because I was so motivated after that , god , what was this 2018 ? I remember just that initial motivation . Like God , I need to go do that . If I would have gone with the motivation and come home and said , boys , summer , we're doing it .
JustinWe would have completely missed it because obviously that motivation was awesome , but it was just a motivation more . I was excited for you and it brought up excitement of different aspirations I may have and I was projecting it towards that to potentially , am I going to make something happen ? Yeah , of course we never did , but that was a true motivation . But it was a motivation that I had because I experienced an inspiration from you and I think we can get in the habit . Once we get motivated , we're ready to go oh , I'm going to go do this . Oh , I'm going to go do that and we don't put it through any , we just go with motivation . It's like I don't know if it's glorifying God , surely maybe it is glorifying God .
RhettEverybody's talking about passion , passion . What's your passion ? Run with the passion , passion , passion . Oh , I'm passionate about this . I want to do this .
JustinI only want to work a job I'm so tired of that I'm only going to be in this role because I've got to be passionate about it . No , sometimes you're going to work a job that you've got to find a way . How can you make the maximum impact , the maximum capacity for that role it ? But you can still be in there and make a difference . But we're in , so passion , passion , focus , that our motivation is what drives us . We're not thinking about glorifying God , we're not thinking about building up others . It might say glorify God and we might say build up others . But it's really that last one .
JustinIt's like this will complete me . I need to go be either on this stage or I need to be this product creator , this branding guy , because I saw this other guy or girl do this and we don't put it through the advice , we don't seek out our friends or those in that we've placed in authority , who have wisdom , and we ignore that piece . It's like , oh man , no , okay .
RhettPeace will come later . We need to carry this conversation on man Like because there's so much I could say about that that just within this timeframe and context I mean because I'm like maybe we just wrap it up today- Well , yeah , and then just go ahead , and well , episode 23 will be a continuation .
RhettYeah , I do think it's interesting , because there are a lot of podcasts and conversations that happen where you feel like you get to the end and it's all wrapped up in a bow . We've talked about this , and the more we listen to it and the more we're forcing ourselves to go look , man . I mean , this is an ongoing conversation .
RhettThis is something we'll just continue to talk about . And so , while this episode , I mean so much dude , the maps thing , like even if you , even if I didn't know how to like particularly say that I've put myself through that process over time . It's just a beautiful way to say it . Um , simple , it is so , it's so simple . So , motivation , it's a filter . It's a filter . It's a filter that helps you , set you up for success . That's right , there's , you know . So if you're dreaming about something , if you're wanting to take a next step , remember that maps , you know , asking yourself the question . Motivation , advice , peace and steps . That's right . And uh , I think that was so good . So , hey , we love you guys . Thank you so much for the time on the podcast . It's it's been real . Looking forward to next episode
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JustinIt's been real . Looking forward to next episode . Thank you for listening to Armchair Authentic with Rhett and Justin . We had a great time with you today . We'd love to hear from you so we can continue to create content that helps you as you're on your journey to fulfill your God assignments . You can reach us at info at armchairauthenticcom . Well , until next time , we hope you have a great week . We'll see you soon .